From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 01:07:59 1998 Message-ID: <62VT+AA4hz61IwwA@windchime.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 00:57:44 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Dave Subject: Re: z80 snaps In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2214 Lines: 44 >Hello, > Does anybody know how i can get .z80 snaps back on to the spectrum? well, that kinda depends on whether yr using the v3.02 'came free with PC Format magazine so it's technically not shareware but, let's face it, everyone has a copy' or the registered v3.04 or thereabouts... the latter comes with a utility to convert .z80 snaps to .voc sound files which, with the help of a soundcard on yr pc, can be recorded directly on to ordeo cassetten and then loaded back into t'old speccy. i'm assuming that you are, in fact, using a spectrum emulator on a pc. if, on the other hand, you've just downloaded shedloads of .z80s from nvg and would like to try 'em out on a real machine, then, as far as I'm aware, there is no easy way. I suppose I ought to write a freeware convertor for them (i've already written a freeware convertor for converting audio samples of spectrum cassettes into .tap files for use with spectrum emulators... v. useful... so i suppose i should've written one to go the other way, as well as a convertor from .z80 to .tap - which, to be fair, should be a piece of piss ) ps - did anyone received my previous message about using samdisk / samtoms .. ? the gist was : neither of these utilities actually work on my pc (not really: the first spouts some crap error about not being able to find tracks or something, and the second just give me some bollocks error message - i think. something like that. point is, they don't work properly). so i wrote my own which DOES work. has anyone else had any problems in using these or similar pc utilities to try to convert sam-format floppy disks into .dsk files for use with simcoupe? and also, if anyone else has been able to use samdisk successfully, could they tell me how quick it is? my program takes around a minute-and-a-half to read a complete sam-format floppy, but it mucks about with reading sectors out of order in a quite arbitrary (but evidently successful) fashion. also: if anyone is seriously (as in, actually) considering porting simcoupe to native win32 code then i will be HAPPY (read: willing, and (possibly) able) to help. especially doing the bits that no-one else would probably want to do (eg, sound) -- dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 04:59:31 1998 Message-ID: <19980901035706.29375.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [205.217.16.143] From: Simon Cooke To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: z80 snaps Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:57:04 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1664 Lines: 43 >also: >if anyone is seriously (as in, actually) considering porting simcoupe to >native win32 code then i will be HAPPY (read: willing, and (possibly) >able) to help. especially doing the bits that no-one else would probably >want to do (eg, sound) Well, I've started on it - initially in MFC, but I think I'm going to switch to native Win32 with a C and C++ mix. Direct X 3 for the graphics should let it work on NT 4 and Win 95; though the initial development is using DIB's and BITBLT to get things to work (it's slower, but it's a catch-all; it'll work on anything). It's also using memory-mapped files for the graphics to make things nearly as fast as using Direct X (as long as it's not stretching the screen). I've not run any speed tests yet, but it appears to be OK showing the SAM palette. If you're interested in emulating the SAA1099, feel free -- but I recommend that you use 1/50th of a second-long buffers (two of them - one to play, one to fill; maybe one more just in case), and make it user-definable exactly what size they are; 44.25kHZ would be nice; 22.x kHZ would probably be the lower limit for good quality. Consider also allowing samples to be emulated; I'm going to put something in the display code to handle that; it'll give you an offset in ms for the current sample (or something). The only thing that I ask is that you: (a) define an API (b) tell me what it is (c) stick to it as much as possible And try to keep your code as black-boxy as possible, so that I can just plug it in. Thanks :) Simon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 08:47:35 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 8:40:11 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: I'm new here. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1666 Lines: 40 > HDOS is good, but could be better, and because of the lack of > co-operation from people on this list there seems little hope of > any advance in the near future. Development on HDOS ceased due to Nev's hard disc going for a burton, if what the big guy told me is true[1] and has absolutely nothing to do with the "non co-operation" of this list. > There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some > respects but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive > as one space. I'll try and add something useful to this comment: BDOS is a modified SAMDOS by Edwin Blink and is designed to operate with single floppy and/or the ATOM hard disc system. BDOS stores 800k disc images as records on the disc and then accesses them as a virtual second disc drive. It uses standard & extended BASIC syntax e.g. RECORD 1 to select records, READ WRITE LOAD SAVE etc.. HDOS is a "truer" disc operating system, but has a few nasty bugs and due to a large chunk of the source being lost[1], further development could be a little bit tricky. HDOS uses CALL statements for disc operations which IIRC are similar to CALL base+16,"program" You may download BDOS from NVG, or http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/coupe/edwin/ [2] Dan. Work: dan@armature.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ [1] Nev, this is what I understand from our conversation at the last Gloucester show - please let me know if I have the wrong end of the stick. [2] And before anybody asks I have no vested interest in BDOS, I'm just hosting it for Edwin cos I'm top geezer with lots of webspace :-) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 10:17:54 1998 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:12:16 +0200 From: ft@edh.ericsson.se (Frode Tenneboe) Message-Id: <9809010912.AA03503@asmal.edh-net> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: removed X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 164 Lines: 10 Hi again, An updated unsub message: tombox@katowice.pkp.com.pl odenthal@anysim.de ..have also been unsubscribed by me. Let them know if you know them. -Frode From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 18:49:56 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: POSTMASTER From: Samsboss@postmaster.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <80256672.0061DF38.00@osiris.postmaster.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:47:52 +0100 Subject: Re: I'm new here. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 933 Lines: 32 | Samsboss@postmaster.co.uk wrote: | | > | >There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some | > | >respects | > | >but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one | > | space. | > | | > | But what it loses in that, it gains in the fact that it uses existing | > | commands instead of CALL's. | > | > Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. | Yawn! It is hard work isn't it, to type one command. My point exactly, typing a few calls could hardly be considered difficult, and at least with HDOS you have full use of the drive. Okay, BDOS may be good in other respects, but you have to agree that it is still not the ideal hard dos. I look forward to the day that we have a fully working Hard DOS. -- Samsboss - The One And Only. Accept No Others. ___________________________________ To sign up for a free email account, visit http://www.postmaster.co.uk. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 19:40:26 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: I'll be back Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 18:34:07 GMT Message-ID: <35f03d5f.11907924@mail.enterprise.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 796 Lines: 21 Hi people This is just a note to say that I most likely won't be contactable at this address in five days time. My ISP has been playing silly buggers with the way it treats its customers for some time now, and they've just given me a golden opportunity to leave.. i.e."change your standing order to a direct debit or we'll assume you no longer want your account, and it will be terminated in five days time.." Charming or what! Anyway, I thought I'd tell you lot in one hit. I'll unsub from here soon and then I'll look for a different ISP... and choose an email name/address that doesn't make it so obvious who I am. :-) Any ISP recommendations (in private mail) will be appreciated, provided they are posted in the next few days - after which time they'll bounce. :-) TTFN Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 20:45:56 1998 Message-ID: <35ECBE17.2A91@persona.clara.net> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 20:40:07 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SAM-Users Mailing List Subject: Test posting... please ignore X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 0 Lines: 0 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 22:06:20 1998 From: nevilley@nfy53.demon.co.uk (Nev Young) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: I'm new here. Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 21:02:45 GMT Organization: nfy53 Message-ID: <35ec60b3.7507106@post.demon.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 836 Lines: 22 On Tue, 1 Sep 1998 8:40:11 +0000, Dan Doore wrote: > > HDOS is good, but could be better, and because of the lack of > > co-operation from people on this list there seems little hope of > > any advance in the near future. > > Development on HDOS ceased due to Nev's hard disc going for a burton, if > what the big guy told me is true[1] and has absolutely nothing to do with > the "non co-operation" of this list. > > > [1] Nev, this is what I understand from our conversation at the last > Gloucester show - please let me know if I have the wrong end of the > stick. > Not fully accurate but certainly close enough to make little or no difference. -- Nev - no longer at nevilley@ndirect.co.uk and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk also hiding on ICQ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 22:41:36 1998 From: davidm@enterprise.net (David Munden) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: TELEDISK Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 21:38:00 GMT Message-ID: <35f36677.1319884@mail.enterprise.net> References: <70357F92370@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> In-Reply-To: <70357F92370@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 469 Lines: 11 On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:29:50 MET, E.P.R.P. Blink wrote: >Does anyone has problems using teledisk on a pentium ? >It works on my 486/ 66MHz but on all pentium PCs I tried it wouldn't work. >However I found out that there's also "Teleget" which seems to work >with them. But it it can only copy files to a disk. I managed to get it to work fine on my old p100. I did find that I had to use it from dos before entering windows or it would fail. _ |_)avid (\/)unden From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 1 22:49:15 1998 From: Paul Walker Organization: very little To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:52:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: I'm new here. Message-ID: In-reply-to: <80256671.003FE60D.00@osiris.postmaster.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) X-Hops: 1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 470 Lines: 13 > Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. It > may require calls, but at least HDOS takes the right approach. The right approach is to write an entirely new DOS, and hang backwards compability. Unfortunately, that's not really the *practical* approach. Paul -- ---- MicroSoft Windows - where do you want to crash today? ---- FidoNet: 2:254/211.44 2:442/103.13 ---> http://www.craybbs.co.uk/foti <--- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 2 07:39:20 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 08:26:47 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: HDD and operating systems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id HAA02515 Status: RO Content-Length: 1963 Lines: 67 Dzieńdobry! Looking at those quarrels I made little summary: There are two HD interfaces (not including my inventinon) - SD and Atom. Atom is better and can be used without HD drive. My questions: Are they compatibile? What has Atom apart from HD controller? Eg. own ROM, DMA, 1.8MB floppy controller, 8MB RAM, ZX128 hardware emulator, RTC, Centronics, RS232, IEC625, music card etc. ? Start form HDD or needs floppy disk to first BOOT? There are five systems for SAM (not including my work). PRODOS - a CP/M 2.2 compatibile. Does anyone use CP/M on SAM? SAMDOS 2.0 - freeware, but primitive. MasterDOS 3.0 - "better" SAMDOS, but for money. I found in "Technical Manual" that SAMDOS uses hook codes &80..&84, &8B, &93..&97, &9E..&A1, &A4..&A6. I know, that MASTERDOS uses all &80..&AF - where the rest is described? BSDOS by Edwin Blink - like SAMDOS, but emulates floppies on hardisk. Uses special command to login diskimage. HDOS by Nev - gives direct HD access, but syntax is strange - via CALL. And three system patches: QDOS (but not the ancestor of MS-DOS), MaxiDOS+ and MaxiDOS. I have COMET source titled "HD DOS 0.1 (C) 1995 Slawomir Grodkowski". Remarks are in German and some labels in Polish. In additon are some BASIC procedures that deal with catalogs and FAT. Is this the same as HDOS? I am developing multi-hardware operating system for ZX Spectrum called ZXVGS. When I see the finish of it, I could "by the way" make good system for SAM. But it would be SHAREWARE with about 15USD registration. Anybody interested? And I need co-operation. BTW MS-DOS treats as files only dir-entries-info-area, not the whole contents of subdirectory. Some other problems: I have SAM with ROM 3.0. Is any next? One of SAM users from Poland asked me to make music interface for SAM. What it could be? How looks SAM market now? Are there any new programs? Yarek. Ps. If you don't know it is enough not to answer. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 2 08:22:52 1998 Message-Id: <199809020718.JAA13001@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: I'm new here. Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:16:57 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1022 Lines: 30 > Van: Samsboss@postmaster.co.uk > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: I'm new here. > Datum: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 7:47 > | > Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. > | Yawn! It is hard work isn't it, to type one command. > > My point exactly, typing a few calls could hardly be considered difficult, > and > at least with HDOS you have full use of the drive. No, you could redefine some of your function keys for that, but the lack of certain commands make HDos a very difficult operating system (And I mean a copy command here for example, or do I still have a older version of the HDos). > Okay, BDOS may be good in other respects, but you have to agree that it is > still not the ideal hard dos. > > I look forward to the day that we have a fully working Hard DOS. Just one answer possible here. Why don't you start coding your own Dos? -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] Currently listening to : Roruni Keshin - Best themes Collection From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 00:10:26 1998 From: nevilley@nfy53.demon.co.uk (Nev Young) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: I'm new here. Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 23:00:57 GMT Organization: nfy53 Message-ID: <35ebee9c.12921547@post.demon.co.uk> References: <80256671.003FE60D.00@osiris.postmaster.co.uk> <35EAC7B7.7AE819BD@purple.dircon.co.uk> <35EB39AB.7F0E@persona.clara.net> In-Reply-To: <35EB39AB.7F0E@persona.clara.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1108 Lines: 34 On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:02:51 -0700, you or David wrote: >Gavin Smith wrote: >> >> Samsboss@postmaster.co.uk wrote: >> >> > All I pointed out, and it is something that you cannot deny, is that if >> > just a >> > few of the people on this list had provided Nev with even a little bit of >> > help >> > the HDOS would be a lot better than it is. >> >> Oh joy, Mr Get-along-with-everyone is back. Okay, if you want to start a >> damn stupid arguement, just what the hell did you do to help HDOS? What >> exactly did you code? >> >For all he's willing to admit... he could have done all of it! > >(Not that I'm accusing you Nev, honest ;) IIRC R brenchley helped with some of the assembler bits. I, regretfully, have to admit to doing the rest. I did nearly all of it while I was *unemployed* that is not earning a wage. Once I had a job then Sam and hdos had to take a back seat. Now my sams have not just taken a back seat but are all in bits and spread all round the attic. One day I may have one that works again. nev - who wishes folk would just let hdos rest in peace. From imc Thu Sep 3 01:33:41 1998 Subject: Re: I'm new here. In-Reply-To: <80256671.003FE60D.00@osiris.postmaster.co.uk> from "Samsboss@postmaster.co.uk" at "Aug 31, 98 12:38:00 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:33:41 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 986 Lines: 23 On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:38:00 +0100, Samsboss@postmaster.co.uk said: > All I pointed out, and it is something that you cannot deny, is that if > just a > few of the people on this list had provided Nev with even a little bit of > help > the HDOS would be a lot better than it is. The archives are there (up to June 1998); perhaps you can point to a message in which Nev asked for some help with HDOS. > Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. It > may > require calls, but at least HDOS takes the right approach. Arguable. Apologies to Nev if I'm wrong, but doesn't HDOS do directories the MasterDOS way? That is, actually all the files on the disk are in a flat structure with a number to indicate which directory they are supposed to be in. So to find a file in a directory you actually have to search every single file on the disk to see whether it's in that directory. At least if you have records it stands some chance of being efficient. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 14:56:45 1998 Message-ID: <35EE9B11.1745@AnySIM.de> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:35:13 +0200 From: Christof Odenthal X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: thrown out References: <19980818191443.29575.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 383 Lines: 16 hello, it seems that i've been thrown out of the list because my mail-server was offline for approximately one day (hardware defect). I was surprised how quickly this happened. Let's express it in Arnie's words: "i'll be back!" bye, Christof. -- \ | / (-O-O-) -----oooO--(_)--Oooo----- mailto: Odenthal@AnySIM.de homepg: http://homepages.muenchen.org/bm347689/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 15:10:24 1998 From: Frode Tenneboe Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:57:29 +0200 Message-Id: <9809031357.AA08600@asmal.edh.ericsson.se> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: thrown out X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 503 Lines: 22 > hello, > it seems that i've been thrown out of the list because my > mail-server was offline for approximately one day (hardware > defect). I was surprised how quickly this happened. > Let's express it in Arnie's words: "i'll be back!" With a properly configured mailgate this should of course never happen. :) -Frode > > bye, > Christof. > -- > > \ | / > (-O-O-) > -----oooO--(_)--Oooo----- > > mailto: Odenthal@AnySIM.de > homepg: http://homepages.muenchen.org/bm347689/ > From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 21:36:31 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: <72671dbb.35eefcc2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:32:02 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: I'm new here. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 735 Lines: 17 In a message dated 03/09/98 00:03:09 BST, you write: (As in "Nev"!) << Now my sams have not just taken a back seat but are all in bits and spread all round the attic. >> What a dreadful confession! What cruelty! Is this just cause for being struck from the list, excommunicated or suchlike?! I've just become very smug as I've built a SAM-specific workstation, on the far side of the room so it can glare at my PC. SAM, printer and stereo monitor are all connected up once again, linked to my trusty Amstrad NC100 Notepad. I even switched SAM on last Sunday, and the clock was still accurate after months and months of being stuck in a cupboard. (This is the Sambus clock, when a clock actually existed for SAM....) Phil Glover From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 21:48:35 1998 Message-ID: <35EF6EA0.60DD@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 21:37:52 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: I'm new here. References: <72671dbb.35eefcc2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 634 Lines: 18 PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: > > > I've just become very smug as I've built a SAM-specific workstation, on the > far side of the room so it can glare at my PC. SAM, printer and stereo monitor > are all connected up once again, linked to my trusty Amstrad NC100 Notepad. I > even switched SAM on last Sunday, and the clock was still accurate after > months and months of being stuck in a cupboard. (This is the Sambus clock, > when a clock actually existed for SAM....) > > Phil Glover But Phil, a clock DOES exist for SAM! In fact there's several! If you (or anyone else) would like more info - ring Malcolm on 0161 797 0651. David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 21:52:41 1998 From: nevilley@nfy53.demon.co.uk (Nev Young) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: I'm new here. Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:48:51 GMT Organization: nfy53 Message-ID: <35ef006c.7499216@post.demon.co.uk> References: <72671dbb.35eefcc2@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <72671dbb.35eefcc2@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 645 Lines: 22 On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:32:02 EDT, PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 03/09/98 00:03:09 BST, you write: (As in "Nev"!) > > << Now my sams have not just taken a back seat but are all in bits and > spread all round the attic. > >> > > What a dreadful confession! What cruelty! Is this just cause for being struck > from the list, excommunicated or suchlike?! > And hopefully tied down on the bed and whipped with soft feathers by several naked women. Oh Sorry, wrong group :-) -- Nev - no longer at nevilley@ndirect.co.uk and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk also hiding on ICQ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 23:14:57 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: <7e6343e6.35ef141f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:11:43 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: I'm new here. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 457 Lines: 11 In a message dated 03/09/98 21:54:09 BST, David Ledbury wrote: << But Phil, a clock DOES exist for SAM! In fact there's several! If you (or anyone else) would like more info - ring Malcolm on 0161 797 0651. >> My apologies, David. I seem to have been confused by stories of clocks from a Gloucester-based company... No longer being a subscriber to the publication of this company I am out of touch with their vast range of SAM hardware and software. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 23:14:57 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: <9b9e92e6.35ef1421@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:11:45 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Outlet magazine Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1120 Lines: 21 Do other SAM users remember OUTLET disk magazine, published by Brian and Ron Cavers of Leicester? OUTLET was originally Spectrum-based, and soon catered for SAM in the early days. Before long, Brian and Ron produced a SAM-specific version, and very good it was too, even if a bit pricey. Some very good SAM programs appeared in OUTLET, and huge amounts of techie stuff which gave me headaches. I particularly liked the letters, which were well-written and informative, even if some were just a bit critical of the FORMAT/INDUG empire. (Honest! some people seemed to have grievances against INDUG now and again.) Brian and Ron always seemed to be busy, as they ran OUTLET in its various formats for profit. I found them obliging and helpful, and willing to give encouragement to other SAM and Spectrum users and groups. I'm not sure if OUTLET is still copyright, or if there's any chance of persuading Brian and Ron to relinquish copyright. I have most issues of SAM OUTLET, and they are safely under lock and key at an unspecified location. If OUTLET was ever made PD, I could unearth the disks easily. Phil Glover. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 23:33:56 1998 Message-ID: <35EF85BE.63A4@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 23:16:30 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: I'm new here. References: <7e6343e6.35ef141f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 916 Lines: 29 PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 03/09/98 21:54:09 BST, David Ledbury wrote: > > << But Phil, a clock DOES exist for SAM! In fact there's several! > > If you (or anyone else) would like more info - ring Malcolm on 0161 797 > 0651. >> > > My apologies, David. I seem to have been confused by stories of clocks from a > Gloucester-based company... No longer being a subscriber to the publication of > this company I am out of touch with their vast range of SAM hardware and > software. I can't imagine which company you mean ;) But seriously, I believe Malcolm has at least one BDOS and Atom compatible Clock interface available - including an internally fixed version which I think is about 13 quid. Similar price for the external IIR.... but I should check with Mack for more info.... You could always wait for the other-one of course. Oh, BTW anyone, any more news about the SRAM? David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 3 23:33:57 1998 Message-ID: <35EF8661.66FF@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 23:19:13 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Outlet magazine References: <9b9e92e6.35ef1421@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1294 Lines: 32 PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: > > Do other SAM users remember OUTLET disk magazine, published by Brian and Ron > Cavers of Leicester? Yeah - good mag - apart from the damning of our work on the SAM Newsdisk! > OUTLET was originally Spectrum-based, and soon catered for SAM in the early > days. Before long, Brian and Ron produced a SAM-specific version, and very > good it was too, even if a bit pricey. Some very good SAM programs appeared in > OUTLET, and huge amounts of techie stuff which gave me headaches. I > particularly liked the letters, which were well-written and informative, even > if some were just a bit critical of the FORMAT/INDUG empire. (Honest! some > people seemed to have grievances against INDUG now and again.) Really! Your kidding! > I'm not sure if OUTLET is still copyright, or if there's any chance of > persuading Brian and Ron to relinquish copyright. I have most issues of SAM > OUTLET, and they are safely under lock and key at an unspecified location. If > OUTLET was ever made PD, I could unearth the disks easily. Errr... to my knowledge it is still copyright Fred - so either belongs to Colin McD and/or George Boyle.... now Bill don't start bickering again! I don't know the copyright situation... so don't start that lark again! > Phil Glover. David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 4 10:28:22 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: POSTMASTER From: Samsboss@postmaster.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <80256675.0033862A.00@osiris.postmaster.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:23:23 +0100 Subject: Re: Outlet magazine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1319 Lines: 42 | Do other SAM users remember OUTLET disk magazine, published by Brian and Ron | Cavers of Leicester? | | OUTLET was originally Spectrum-based, and soon catered for SAM in the early | days. Before long, Brian and Ron produced a SAM-specific version, and very | good it was too, even if a bit pricey. Some very good SAM programs appeared in | OUTLET, and huge amounts of techie stuff which gave me headaches. I | particularly liked the letters, which were well-written and informative, even | if some were just a bit critical of the FORMAT/INDUG empire. (Honest! some | people seemed to have grievances against INDUG now and again.) | | Brian and Ron always seemed to be busy, as they ran OUTLET in its various | formats for profit. I found them obliging and helpful, and willing to give | encouragement to other SAM and Spectrum users and groups. | | I'm not sure if OUTLET is still copyright, or if there's any chance of | persuading Brian and Ron to relinquish copyright. I have most issues of SAM | OUTLET, and they are safely under lock and key at an unspecified location. If | OUTLET was ever made PD, I could unearth the disks easily. | | Phil Glover. I think you will find that the Sam version of Outlet was sold to Fred Publishing a couple of years ago. -- Samsboss - The One And Only. Accept No Others. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 4 23:00:34 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Outlet magazine Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 21:48:43 GMT Message-ID: <35f354a2.3082736@mail.enterprise.net> References: <9b9e92e6.35ef1421@aol.com> <35EF8661.66FF@persona.clara.net> In-Reply-To: <35EF8661.66FF@persona.clara.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 386 Lines: 16 On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 23:19:13 -0700, David wrote: [Outlet magazine] >Errr... to my knowledge it is still copyright Fred - so either belongs >to Colin McD >and/or George Boyle.... I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that Fred only has the rights to the SAM specific versions of Outlet. Bye davewhitmore@enterprise.net - but not for long now. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 4 23:04:11 1998 Message-ID: <35F0D32C.1398@persona.clara.net> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 22:59:08 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Outlet magazine References: <9b9e92e6.35ef1421@aol.com> <35EF8661.66FF@persona.clara.net> <35f354a2.3082736@mail.enterprise.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 431 Lines: 17 Dave wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 23:19:13 -0700, David > wrote: > > [Outlet magazine] > > >Errr... to my knowledge it is still copyright Fred - so either belongs > >to Colin McD > >and/or George Boyle.... > > I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that Fred only has > the rights to the SAM specific versions of Outlet. Good point :) Wonder what happened to them after the "take over"? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 5 01:40:47 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: <9eb31058.35f086e0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:33:36 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Outlet magazine Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1262 Lines: 23 After the Spectrum and SAM versions of OUTLET, Brian and Ron Cavers went on to produce a PC version, which could be worth a look. I've never seen it, but I did see some adverts for it months back. If it was in the same league as the SAM/Spec versions, it should have been good. Harking back to the earlier Spectrum version of OUTLET, I have a couple of copies of it on Plus D disk. Both issues helped put the Spectrum Plus D system through its paces, and featured good programs. Anyone remember the Plus D? It was the Spectrum disk drive system that put the Spectrum +3 system to shame, and the makers (Miles Gordon Technology) went on to create their very own computer on the strength of the Plus D called the SAM, whatever that may be. I still have Speccy Plus D disk software with titles such as Disk Organiser and Disk Filer by a certain Steve Nutting, and special versions of Spectrum DOS written by a bloke called Andy Wright... Happy days! Thinking about the Spectrum once again, does anyone remember a new BASIC written for the 48k Speccy called MegaBASIC? It was originated by YOUR SINCLAIR magazine, and was quite nice to tinker with, as it used 'real' commands and procedures, not that I fully understand these subjects, of course. - Phil Glover. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 7 22:07:18 1998 Message-ID: <35F4B9B4.45AA@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 21:59:32 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SAM-Users Mailing List Subject: Off topic - Red Dwarf! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 180 Lines: 7 Oaky, it's not SAM Related... but at least I've bothered to post about something today! Am I imagining it, or iss the episode of Red Dwarf on tonight the re-hased episode? David From imc Mon Sep 7 23:21:32 1998 Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! In-Reply-To: <35F4B9B4.45AA@persona.clara.net> from David at "Sep 7, 98 09:59:32 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 23:21:32 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 219 Lines: 7 On Mon, 07 Sep 1998 21:59:32 -0700, David said: > Am I imagining it, or iss the episode of Red Dwarf on tonight the > re-hased episode? You are correct - the episode they showed was the digitally ruined one. :-) imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 8 00:21:45 1998 Message-ID: <35F4D759.601A@persona.clara.net> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 00:06:01 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! References: <199809072221.XAA09092@ruby.comlab> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 280 Lines: 11 Ian Collier wrote: > > On Mon, 07 Sep 1998 21:59:32 -0700, David said: > > Am I imagining it, or iss the episode of Red Dwarf on tonight the > > re-hased episode? > > You are correct - the episode they showed was the digitally ruined one. :-) > > imc Glad I missed it :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 8 22:36:59 1998 From: Peter Harkess To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:07:13 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <62VT+AA4hz61IwwA@windchime.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: z80 snaps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 720 Lines: 17 Hello Dave Dave While summoning a demon,chanted, "Re: z80 snaps": > using these or similar pc utilities to try to convert sam-format floppy > disks into .dsk files for use with simcoupe? and also, if anyone else > has been able to use samdisk successfully, could they tell me how quick > it is? my program takes around a minute-and-a-half to read a complete > sam-format floppy, but it mucks about with reading sectors out of order > in a quite arbitrary (but evidently successful) fashion. I would like to be able to put .dsk files back on to floppy but i keep getting write error messages,can you help?I have samdisk and samtoms but i'll be f*#@$d if i can get them to write a full disk. cheers Peter Harkess From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 8 23:18:43 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: <93b47e65.35f5ac45@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:14:29 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 710 Lines: 20 In a message dated 08/09/98 00:23:29 BST, Dave Ledbury replied: << > You are correct - the episode they showed was the digitally ruined one. :-) > > imc Glad I missed it :) >> I'm glad I've missed practically ALL of the episodes of RED DWARF! (Pause for gasps of shock and horror). Confession time: I can't stand either Craig Charles or Red Dwarf. I tried watching the first series but soon gave up, and every other bit I've seen since has convinced me that I loath the programme. OK, OK. I know Red Dwarf has a huge following, but I find Craig Charles unbearably smug and unfunny. I realise I may be in a minority of one, but I just avoid Red Dwarf like the plague. (Sorry everyone!) - Phil Glover From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 8 23:32:18 1998 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 98 15:16:50 GMT Message-ID: <1112_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: 8bit@itdoesntsuck.com (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 721 Lines: 29 In E-Mail <199809072221.XAA09092@ruby.comlab> Ian Collier wrote:- >On Mon, 07 Sep 1998 21:59:32 -0700, David said: >> Am I imagining it, or iss the episode of Red Dwarf on tonight the >> re-hased episode? > >You are correct - the episode they showed was the digitally ruined one. :-) > >imc Pardon my stupidity, haven't seen this version. What did they DO to it? __ James R Curry - 8bit@itdoesntsuck.com "You're missing the point! The individual doesn't matter. It was a team effort, and I was the one who came up with the whole team idea...me!" - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. Please insert meaningless promise about The Official James R Curry web page here... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 9 00:33:44 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1112_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:18:31 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1234 Lines: 38 At 4:16 pm +0100 8/9/98, James R Curry wrote: > In E-Mail <199809072221.XAA09092@ruby.comlab> > Ian Collier wrote:- > >>On Mon, 07 Sep 1998 21:59:32 -0700, David said: >>> Am I imagining it, or iss the episode of Red Dwarf on tonight the >>> re-hased episode? >> >>You are correct - the episode they showed was the digitally ruined one. :-) >> >>imc > >Pardon my stupidity, haven't seen this version. What did they DO to >it? I didn't see it yesterday, but here's what I remember from the first time they broadcast the remastered episode... 1. They broadcast it in letterbox format, to make you think it was originally filmed in widescreen. 2. They have scutters wandering across the bottom and top of the screen for no readily identifiable reason. 3. They've added a few random 3D-rendered cutscenes of no relevance whatsoever. All a bit pointless really. Perhaps they'd hoped that people would start buying the videos again. Andrew -- | Andrew Collier | email asc25@cam.ac.uk | Talk sense to a | 1B NatSci | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/ | fool and he +----------------+-----------------------------+ calls you foolish | Selwyn College Student Computer Support Team | -- Euripides From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 9 01:13:48 1998 Message-ID: <35F625BF.36EC@persona.clara.net> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 23:52:47 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! References: <93b47e65.35f5ac45@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 321 Lines: 18 -- PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: [snip shocking statement!] the > plague. (Sorry everyone!) > > - Phil Glover Horses for courses, as they say! At least you bothered to post... thats' something! On topic, when's the next Gloucester show? I've got some appointments coming up in Stroud over the next few weeks.... David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 9 07:08:34 1998 From: Frode Tenneboe Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:01:32 +0200 Message-Id: <9809090601.AA04314@asmal.edh.ericsson.se> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 450 Lines: 11 > Confession time: I can't stand either Craig Charles or Red Dwarf. I tried > watching the first series but soon gave up, and every other bit I've seen > since has convinced me that I loath the programme. OK, OK. I know Red Dwarf > has a huge following, but I find Craig Charles unbearably smug and unfunny. I So...which one is that? > realise I may be in a minority of one, but I just avoid Red Dwarf like the > plague. (Sorry everyone!) -Frode From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 9 08:58:00 1998 Message-Id: <199809090749.IAA23705@tweekie.iplbath.com> From: Luke Organization: IPL Information Processing Ltd To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:49:37 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! In-reply-to: References: <1112_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1355 Lines: 34 Date sent: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:18:31 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! Send reply to: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > I didn't see it yesterday, but here's what I remember from the first time > they broadcast the remastered episode... > > 1. They broadcast it in letterbox format, to make you think it was > originally filmed in widescreen. > > 2. They have scutters wandering across the bottom and top of the screen for > no readily identifiable reason. > > 3. They've added a few random 3D-rendered cutscenes of no relevance whatsoever. > > All a bit pointless really. Perhaps they'd hoped that people would start > buying the videos again. > > Andrew > You appear to have missed the point despite noticing the relevance. Adding all the pointless, irrelevant bits is just taking the piss out of digitally remastering anything. They add nothing to what was there already. A bit like the Star Wars films (even though they left in some really bad bits of overlaying and the like). +------------------------------------------------+ | Name: Luke Ferris E-Mail: lukef@iplbath.com | | Title: Designer Tel: 01225 475 239 | | 01225 429 380 | +------------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 9 09:43:11 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <8025667A.002F6E37.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:41:23 +0100 Subject: Re: HDD and operating systems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 274 Lines: 12 >PRODOS - a CP/M 2.2 compatibile. > Does anyone use CP/M on SAM? Actually, I do... I quite like it. It's just a shame that that the version I have seems to not like running some CP/M 2.2 stuff I have... Justin. From imc Wed Sep 9 10:23:48 1998 Subject: Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf! In-Reply-To: from Andrew Collier at "Sep 9, 98 00:18:31 am" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:23:48 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 854 Lines: 21 On Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:18:31 +0100, Andrew Collier said: > I didn't see it yesterday, but here's what I remember from the first time > they broadcast the remastered episode... > 1. They broadcast it in letterbox format, to make you think it was > originally filmed in widescreen. > 2. They have scutters wandering across the bottom and top of the screen for > no readily identifiable reason. > 3. They've added a few random 3D-rendered cutscenes of no relevance whatsoever. Indeed, all external shots of the small rouge one have been computer generated (as were the added scutters). But: 0. They ripped out half the opening fanfare and replaced it with the opening music of later series (which, boringly enough, is an arrangement of the ending music), together with clips of things that didn't happen during the first series. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 9 21:12:02 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:04:32 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: HDD and operating systems - PRODOS Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 807 Lines: 19 I bought PRODOS ages ago, and was very impressed with what I saw of it. The initial potential for its use seemed considerable, but never fully realised. It seemed very well suited to twi-drive SAMs, as you virtually had three drives to use. The main drawback to more popular appeal of PRODOS could have been the fine text. You really need a good clear TV or monitor to use it. I particularly enjoyed playing HITCH-HIKERS GUIDE TO THE GALAXY on PRODOS, although the Infocom PC version is even better. I'll probably hardly touch PRODOS in the future, but it'd be good if there is some degree of support for it out there somewhere. (I've suddenly had a memory flash of playing SPACE INVADERS under PRODOS - It's an, erm, interesting game to play.) By the way, is Chris Pile at liberty now? - Phil Glover From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 9 21:12:02 1998 Message-ID: <35F73E3F.489@persona.clara.net> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:49:35 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: HDD and operating systems References: <8025667A.002F6E37.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 610 Lines: 19 Justin_Skists@case.co.uk wrote: > > >PRODOS - a CP/M 2.2 compatibile. > > Does anyone use CP/M on SAM? > > Actually, I do... I quite like it. It's just a shame that > that the version I have seems to not like running some > CP/M 2.2 stuff I have... > > > > Justin. Well... I know Chris (Pile that is) isn't too interested in going back to an old program. He said (in my interview with him in Blitz - IIR) that he'd have put CPM+ support in if he'd had the info... but he only had very scant into on the system. So he did pretty well really! David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 9 21:12:02 1998 Message-ID: <35F73EBE.6D18@persona.clara.net> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:51:42 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SAM-Users Mailing List Subject: So... when's the show? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 246 Lines: 9 Well, as I said earlier, I'll be quite possibly down in Stroud some time over the next few weeks... * When is the show on? David * Either that, or St Albans - depending on which site they send me down to check up on the performance stats on! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 9 22:06:39 1998 Message-ID: <35F75435.5E48@persona.clara.net> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 21:23:17 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: HDD and operating systems - PRODOS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 126 Lines: 8 PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: > > By the way, is Chris Pile at liberty now? > > - Phil Glover Read the interview in Blitz 8 :) From imc Thu Sep 10 11:31:32 1998 Subject: Re: So... when's the show? In-Reply-To: <35F73EBE.6D18@persona.clara.net> from David at "Sep 9, 98 07:51:42 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:31:32 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 109 Lines: 6 On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:51:42 -0700, David said: > When is the show on? Apparently it is October 17th. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 10 18:16:16 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: z80 snaps Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:11:03 GMT Message-ID: <35fc03f2.27270806@mail.enterprise.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 671 Lines: 18 On Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:07:13 +0000, Peter Harkess wrote: >I would like to be able to put .dsk files back on to floppy but i keep getting >write error messages,can you help?I have samdisk and samtoms but i'll be >f*#@$d if i can get them to write a full disk. Hi Peter Are you doing this with PC emulation on the Amiga, or have you got hold of a PC? I could never get any of the SAM<>PC utilities to work with the likes of PC Task. Even with a proper PC I can't get many of the older utils like samtoms (and Teledisk) to work. Samdisk seems quite fussy and only works when it wants to. Bye Dave (apparently not kicked off Enty yet) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 11 00:51:40 1998 Message-ID: <35F8918E.522D@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:57:18 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: So... when's the show? References: <199809101031.LAA16447@ruby.comlab> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 186 Lines: 12 Ian Collier wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:51:42 -0700, David said: > > When is the show on? > > Apparently it is October 17th. > > imc Good... I'll mark it in my diary. Ta From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 12 00:55:37 1998 Message-ID: <35FA262F.4121@persona.clara.net> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:43:43 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SAM-Users Mailing List Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 114 Lines: 2 Phew! WHat a busy mailing list it's been today! Crikey, my server's been straining at the edges to handle it all! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 12 13:02:55 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: So... when's the show? Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:58:35 GMT Message-ID: <35fe691c.8014225@mail.enterprise.net> References: <199809101031.LAA16447@ruby.comlab> <35F8918E.522D@persona.clara.net> In-Reply-To: <35F8918E.522D@persona.clara.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 241 Lines: 17 On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:57:18 -0700, David wrote: >> >> Apparently it is October 17th. >> >> imc > >Good... I'll mark it in my diary. > >Ta Will you do that with a pen or a pencil? Lord, get me outta here! :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 12 13:07:21 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:01:33 GMT Message-ID: <35fa624f.432279@mail.enterprise.net> References: <35FA262F.4121@persona.clara.net> In-Reply-To: <35FA262F.4121@persona.clara.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 315 Lines: 10 On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:43:43 -0700, David wrote: >Phew! WHat a busy mailing list it's been today! Crikey, my server's been >straining at the edges to handle it all! Looking back over the last few years, this has usually been a very busy time for the list. Well it ain't no more... Dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 12 20:29:27 1998 From: Peter Harkess To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:24:02 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <35fc03f2.27270806@mail.enterprise.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: z80 snaps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1053 Lines: 34 Hello Dave Dave While summoning a demon,chanted, "Re: z80 snaps": > On Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:07:13 +0000, Peter Harkess > wrote: > >> I would like to be able to put .dsk files back on to floppy but i keep getting >> write error messages,can you help?I have samdisk and samtoms but i'll be >> f*#@$d if i can get them to write a full disk. > > Hi Peter > > Are you doing this with PC emulation on the Amiga, or have you got > hold of a PC? I could never get any of the SAM<>PC utilities Hello Dave. I have an old 286 which i use for doing silly things like unpacking .td0 files and that sort of thing but i'm told that samdisk should work on mine but alas no!! to work > with the likes of PC Task. Even with a proper PC I can't get many of > the older utils like samtoms (and Teledisk) to work. Samdisk seems > quite fussy and only works when it wants to. > I did notice samtoms and samdisk don't want to work for me. I might be getting an old 386 maybe it'll work on that! --- cheers Peter Harkess From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 13 18:14:29 1998 Message-ID: <35FC6B6A.5B9B@persona.clara.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:03:38 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SAM-Users Mailing List Subject: Hello? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 24 Lines: 1 Anyone alive out there? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 13 18:33:25 1998 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:29:17 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Dave Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <35FC6B6A.5B9B@persona.clara.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1749 Lines: 34 David writes >Anyone alive out there? yup. although i've not been up to much (save for going to Malta for a week) if anyone wants to test my little samdisk-alike that can read (and, in a matter of days, write) sam disks to .dsk files on hard drive, send me an email. from my small amount of testing, it seems to work on computers on which samtoms, samdisk and teledisk barf. but that might just be chance, and it might turn out my prog doesn't work on your pc either. also, coming very soon, a little utility that can read your old spectrum cassettes (played into the pc using your soundcard and, say, your old speccy cassette lead and a walkman) and convert them on-the-fly into .tap files (no need to sample first into a .voc file and run Z80's convert utility, which unregistered Z80 Spectrum Emulator users won't have anyway). it's basically finished, just need to neaten the edges a bit. it's a (win32) console app at the moment but that's no big deal. nice Windows version coming along when i have a bit more time. and Simon - i *am* working on the sound for the win32 simcoupe... just let me know what you need to know and when. dunno if you got my mail about the interface i'd be using (CSAASound), but it was wrong in several places so you can probably forget it for the time being. it'll be windows waveform or directsound (both) but it might be a tad processor intensive with all the 'accuracy' options turned up to full... turn them all to low and wincoupe-with-sound should run fine on a decent pentium i guess... or i could consider implementing a cheesy inaccurate midi-based saa emulation, especially for low-spec machines, a bit like the original by aley keprt. but that'll come much later. -- dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 13 22:04:33 1998 Message-ID: <35FCA1B7.345F@persona.clara.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:55:19 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 313 Lines: 12 Dave wrote: > > David writes > >Anyone alive out there? > > yup. although i've not been up to much (save for going to Malta for a > week) I dunno... sounds like at least you're still posting to the list... Apart from an answer from Ian and David W ... I think everyone else is dead? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 13 22:22:05 1998 Message-Id: <199809132116.XAA29840@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:15:48 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 548 Lines: 20 > Van: David > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Hello? > Datum: Monday, September 14, 1998 6:55 > > >Anyone alive out there? > > > > yup. although i've not been up to much (save for going to Malta for a > > week) > > I dunno... sounds like at least you're still posting to the list... > > Apart from an answer from Ian and David W ... I think everyone else is > dead? So i am a living-dead then? :) -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] Currently listening to : Gunnm - Image album From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 13 22:27:58 1998 Message-ID: <35FCA81A.3364@persona.clara.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:22:34 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? References: <199809132116.XAA29840@mailserv.caiw.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 681 Lines: 26 Robert van der Veeke wrote: > > > Van: David > > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > > Onderwerp: Re: Hello? > > Datum: Monday, September 14, 1998 6:55 > > > > >Anyone alive out there? > > > > > > yup. although i've not been up to much (save for going to Malta for a > > > week) > > > > I dunno... sounds like at least you're still posting to the list... > > > > Apart from an answer from Ian and David W ... I think everyone else is > > dead? > > So i am a living-dead then? :) ZOMBI! ZOMBI!! > Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics > [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] > Currently listening to : Gunnm - Image album Curently listening to: Midi of C64 Monty on the Run! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 13 22:44:09 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35FCA81A.3364@persona.clara.net> References: <199809132116.XAA29840@mailserv.caiw.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:38:59 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Hello? X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 429 Lines: 17 At 6:22 am +0100 14/9/98, David wrote: >Robert van der Veeke wrote: >> So i am a living-dead then? :) > >ZOMBI! ZOMBI!! Nah, that's just a touch of pinkeye. Andrew -- | Andrew Collier | email asc25@cam.ac.uk | Talk sense to a | 1B NatSci | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/ | fool and he +----------------+-----------------------------+ calls you foolish | Selwyn College Student Computer Support Team | -- Euripides From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 13 23:28:17 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: <897078f.35fc4548@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:20:56 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Simple question regarding printer cables Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 537 Lines: 11 Where can I buy a SAM printer cable, and at what price? (Other than Gloucester). I seem to have accumulated two or three old dot matrix printers, and I thought I'd connect my second SAM up to one of them, as I've a spare COMMS interface. At least it'd do for labels, etc. My next door neighbour was about to bin an old Citizen printer, but I offered it a good home. Does anyone else hang on to similar old equipment? I hate scrapping such machines if they still work. One day Antiques Roadshow may take an interest..... - Phil Glover From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 06:11:19 1998 Message-ID: <19980914050824.19297.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [205.217.16.205] From: Simon Cooke To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:08:24 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 212 Lines: 10 >Apart from an answer from Ian and David W ... I think everyone else is >dead? *corpses* Simon ;) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 08:32:11 1998 Message-ID: <004b01bddfb0$cf623580$f03ca8c0@DavesPC.orctel.internal> From: Dave To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:24:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 224 Lines: 15 > > ZOMBI! ZOMBI!! > > Nah, that's just a touch of pinkeye. > > Andrew Worcester Sauce strikes again. DMZ --- Colour of the day : Dark Pink Quote of the day : "Sir, put the mice down" Song of the day : Creep - Radiohead From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 10:17:34 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? References: <004b01bddfb0$cf623580$f03ca8c0@DavesPC.orctel.internal> X-Face: "J~~0'L`GfL^sW4%+i35x#X308)K/$7\]qy)UZ$`k:}Bx]6mgAA^N5,@brn/19TPn%o;j28 W7mD)UN~se8P9\3?wU.g+i9)X Date: 14 Sep 1998 10:13:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Dave"'s message of "Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:24:42 +0100" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.07003 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.30) Emacs/20.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 301 Lines: 18 "Dave" writes: > > > ZOMBI! ZOMBI!! > > > > Nah, that's just a touch of pinkeye. > > > > Andrew > > Worcester Sauce strikes again. Hmm, South Park fan by perchance ? {Grins} Lee. -- Lee Willis GBDirect Ltd, 27 Park Drive, Heaton, Bradford, UK, BD9 4DS Tel: +44 (0)1274 772277 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 10:55:18 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:42:19 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Hello? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 434 Lines: 21 > > > Nah, that's just a touch of pinkeye. > > > > > > Andrew > > > > Worcester Sauce strikes again. > > Hmm, South Park fan by perchance ? Off topic but what the heck... Out Intranet server is called Kenny and some smartie unplugged it's network cables at the weekend rendering it off line. I had the pleasure of logging the following fault with the helpdesk this morning: "They killed Kenny! - You bastards!" :-) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 11:08:42 1998 Message-ID: <009a01bddfc5$d51ad9e0$f03ca8c0@DavesPC.orctel.internal> From: Dave To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:55:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 510 Lines: 19 > Off topic but what the heck... > > Out Intranet server is called Kenny and some smartie unplugged it's > network cables at the weekend rendering it off line. > > I had the pleasure of logging the following fault with the helpdesk this > morning: > > "They killed Kenny! - You bastards!" We've got a Linux box called Cartman. Does that count? :) DMZ --- Colour of the day : Light Blue Quote of the day : "This is seriously, extremely perverse. I'm impressed." Song of the day : Religion - Front 242 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 11:08:42 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <8025667F.003758DC.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:08:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cables Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 296 Lines: 10 >Where can I buy a SAM printer cable, and at what price? (Other than >Gloucester). IIRC, he SAM's parallel printer interface uses the standard BBC 'B' printer cable. I believe Maplins sell them. (At least, they used to). Price? Unknown, but I'll have a look in my catalogue tonight... justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 12:05:27 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? References: <009a01bddfc5$d51ad9e0$f03ca8c0@DavesPC.orctel.internal> X-Face: "J~~0'L`GfL^sW4%+i35x#X308)K/$7\]qy)UZ$`k:}Bx]6mgAA^N5,@brn/19TPn%o;j28 W7mD)UN~se8P9\3?wU.g+i9)X Date: 14 Sep 1998 11:17:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Dave"'s message of "Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:55:10 +0100" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.07003 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.30) Emacs/20.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 269 Lines: 13 "Dave" writes: > We've got a Linux box called Cartman. Does that count? :) How about this then ... http://www.gbdirect.co.uk/~lee/scrnsht.jpg Lee. -- Lee Willis GBDirect Ltd, 27 Park Drive, Heaton, Bradford, UK, BD9 4DS Tel: +44 (0)1274 772277 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 12:05:28 1998 Message-ID: <00ba01bddfcb$8c3cec80$f03ca8c0@DavesPC.orctel.internal> From: Dave To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:36:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 274 Lines: 14 >How about this then ... > >http://www.gbdirect.co.uk/~lee/scrnsht.jpg Hooray! :) DMZ --- Colour of the day : Light Blue Quote of the day : "This is seriously, extremely perverse. I'm impressed." <-- Pertinent quote for this reply Song of the day : Religion - Front 242 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 12:05:28 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:05:25 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Simple question regarding printer ca MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 383 Lines: 14 > Where can I buy a SAM printer cable, and at what price? (Other than > Gloucester). The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might be easier to find one of those. > Does anyone else hang on to similar old equipment? I hate scrapping such > machines if they still work. I still have my Star LC-10 and I'm not getting rid of that, not for no one :-) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 12:16:30 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:10:36 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: Hello? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 153 Lines: 9 > > We've got a Linux box called Cartman. Does that count? :) > > How about this then ... > > http://www.gbdirect.co.uk/~lee/scrnsht.jpg Sweet. Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 17:35:30 1998 Message-ID: <19980914162035.1788.qmail@metis.salford.ac.uk> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: S.D.Birchall@surveying.salford.ac.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:13:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: sam for sale: In-reply-to: <35FCA81A.3364@persona.clara.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id RAA19842 Status: RO Content-Length: 76 Lines: 3 512k, mouse adapter, psu, disks, games, boxed, blue drive version: £50. Stu From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 18:50:20 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: crimson.mono.org: unc owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:47:14 +0100 (BST) From: Tim To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: So... when's the show? In-Reply-To: <199809101031.LAA16447@ruby.comlab> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 472 Lines: 11 On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Ian Collier wrote: > On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:51:42 -0700, David said: > > When is the show on? > Apparently it is October 17th. Great. I'm in London. Terry Pratchett is in Cheltenham, and sam-users are in Quedgley. Maybe next easter if they're still going.... ;) .............................................................................@/ Unc - Tim Paveley - Moderator of "The Games Room" & "Ascii Animations" http://www.mono.org/~unc/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 19:57:13 1998 Message-ID: <35FDD461.571E@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:43:45 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cables References: <897078f.35fc4548@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id TAA21970 Status: RO Content-Length: 984 Lines: 27 PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: > > Where can I buy a SAM printer cable, and at what price? (Other than > Gloucester). > > I seem to have accumulated two or three old dot matrix printers, and I thought > I'd connect my second SAM up to one of them, as I've a spare COMMS interface. > At least it'd do for labels, etc. My next door neighbour was about to bin an > old Citizen printer, but I offered it a good home. Does anyone else hang on > to similar old equipment? I hate scrapping such machines if they still work. > One day Antiques Roadshow may take an interest..... > > - Phil Glover Give Mack a shout on PersonaHQ@AOL.COM ... I'd be surprised if he doesn't have at least one or two :) David -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http://www.persona.clara.net | +--------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 22:29:14 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <8e4f633b.35fd8854@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:19:16 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cable Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 739 Lines: 29 In a message dated 14/09/98 11:03:55, you write: > >> Where can I buy a SAM printer cable, and at what price? (Other than >> Gloucester). > >The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might be easier to >find one of those. Oh no it isn't. AFAIKFO no one makes them anymore (well, except me). You need 2m 26way IDC ribon cable, Maplin part number XR75S @ 42p per metre, 1 26way IDC socket, Maplin part number FG85G @ 149P each, and 1 Centronics connector, Maplin part number FJ62S @265p each. Prices include VAT but not P&P. You will also need either a crimping tool, part number GW34M @ 1049p or a vice and very great care. > Makes the 795p we charge look quit good does it not? -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 14 23:04:15 1998 Message-ID: <35FDFF7A.69BA@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:47:38 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cable References: <8e4f633b.35fd8854@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 871 Lines: 35 BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 14/09/98 11:03:55, you write: > > > > >> Where can I buy a SAM printer cable, and at what price? (Other than > >> Gloucester). > > > >The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might be easier to > >find one of those. > > > Oh no it isn't. > > > AFAIKFO no one makes them anymore (well, except me). > > You need 2m 26way IDC ribon cable, Maplin part number XR75S @ 42p per metre, > 1 26way IDC socket, Maplin part number FG85G @ 149P each, and 1 Centronics > connector, Maplin part number FJ62S @265p each. > > Prices include VAT but not P&P. > > You will also need either a crimping tool, part number GW34M @ 1049p or a vice > and very great care. > > > > Makes the 795p we charge look quit good does it not? > > -- > Bob. BOB! You're alive! Great to hear from u again! From imc Tue Sep 15 00:37:10 1998 Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cable In-Reply-To: <35FDFF7A.69BA@persona.clara.net> from David at "Sep 14, 98 10:47:38 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:37:10 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 1244 Lines: 35 On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:47:38 -0700, David said: > BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: > > >The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might be easier to > > >find one of those. > > > > Oh no it isn't. > > > > AFAIKFO no one makes them anymore (well, except me). It can't be more than five years since I last bought a BBC printer cable. :-) > > You need 2m 26way IDC ribon cable, Maplin part number XR75S @ 42p per metre, > > 1 26way IDC socket, Maplin part number FG85G @ 149P each, and 1 Centronics > > connector, Maplin part number FJ62S @265p each. Which I reckon up to 498p. > > You will also need either a crimping tool, part number GW34M @ 1049p or a vice > > and very great care. I've wired up many an IDC connector in the past without a tool with only a few foul-ups. :-) Difficult but by no means impossible. > > Makes the 795p we charge look quit good does it not? Only if you need a new tool for every three cables. > BOB! You're alive! Didn't you see him on "The Royle Family" today? Incidentally, for obscure reasons I saw a bit of Newsnight with the sound turned off tonight and was rather confused to see Jack Charlton and Clive Sinclair apparently talking about American politics... imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 09:33:15 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:39:31 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: Re: Z80 snaps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 158 Lines: 7 Hi! I only want to add that in my operating system called ZXVGS the ".Z80" snaps can be loaded by RSX. There's only need to copy them to CP/M disk. Yarek. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 09:33:15 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:55:38 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: CP/M 2.2 QED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 230 Lines: 8 Hi! I made demo version of my CP/M 2.2 QED. If anyone wanted to test it please let me know. I can also post it here. It is 20KB long in uuencode. The basic knowledle of CP/M is needed because there are no docs included. Yarek. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 09:59:05 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <80256680.00300AEE.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:48:04 +0100 Subject: Re: CP/M 2.2 QED Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 568 Lines: 18 >I made demo version of my CP/M 2.2 QED. If anyone wanted >to test it please let me know. I can also post it here. >It is 20KB long in uuencode. The basic knowledle of CP/M >is needed because there are no docs included. > >Yarek. I thought I might point at that so far in my testing, it seems pretty good. I haven't yet tested the demo to see if it works with the software I have problems with on Pro-DOS but, so far, there are quite a few indications that say it's better than Pro-DOS... Justin. PS. This isn't really an advertisement... sort of a mini-review.. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 09:59:06 1998 From: Christof Odenthal To: sam-users Subject: Re: CP/M 2.2 QED Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:47:49 +0200 Message-ID: <000801bde085$844839c0$6053bec3@polanski.anysim.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 659 Lines: 29 > > Hi! > > I made demo version of my CP/M 2.2 QED. If anyone wanted > to test it please let me know. I can also post it here. > It is 20KB long in uuencode. The basic knowledle of CP/M > is needed because there are no docs included. > > Yarek. > Hi Yarek, i think you wouldn't make yourself very popular if you post binaries to any mailing list or to News. It's better when you give an email address where the folks can ask for it or if you give a ftp- or www-address where they can download it. bye, Christof. -- \ | / (-O-O-) -----oooO--(_)--Oooo----- mailto: Odenthal@AnySIM.de homepg: http://homepages.muenchen.org/bm347689/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 11:08:23 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:00:21 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: CP/M 2.2 QED MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 438 Lines: 16 > Hi Yarek, > i think you wouldn't make yourself very popular if you post > binaries to any mailing list or to News. It's better when > you give an email address where the folks can ask for it or > if you give a ftp- or www-address where they can download > it. Indeed, You can FTP files to ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/sam-coupe/incoming/ Dan. Work: dan@armature.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 17:09:19 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 16:41:12 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cable Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1058 Lines: 45 On Mon 14 Sep 98 (17:19:16), brenchleyr@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 14/09/98 11:03:55, you write: > >> >>> Where can I buy a SAM printer cable, and at what price? (Other than >>> Gloucester). I'm not sure, but I think Maplins still sell the BBC Style ones. Or if you ask me nicely Phil, I'll let you have my spare one :-) Of course, I can't guarantee that it will work, but if it saves you some cash... >> >>The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might be easier >to >>find one of those. > > >Oh no it isn't. > > I've always used the lead that came with my BBC and it's printer with my SAM, and I've never had any problems. >AFAIKFO no one makes them anymore (well, except me). > [Snip} >.. >Bob. Stewart. -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ ICQ : 18283999 * * * Stewart's SAM Information Pages. * * * http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 17:09:21 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 16:46:12 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Hello? Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1245 Lines: 45 On Sun 13 Sep 98 (21:55:19), david@persona.clara.net wrote: >Dave wrote: >> >> David writes >> >Anyone alive out there? >> >> yup. although i've not been up to much (save for going to Malta for a >> week) > >I dunno... sounds like at least you're still posting to the list... > >Apart from an answer from Ian and David W ... I think everyone else is >dead? > > Not dead, just sleeping. O.K so I admit that my SAMs have been packed away until someone gives me a good excuse to get them out again. Yes folks, I'm still here. Just about. I've not been in touch for a while - long story - but I'm back. BTW what HAS happened to this list....It's sooooo dull now. :-) Just as well I'm back to liven things up. Any new SAM projects I should know about other than the ATOM etc which Malcolm has told me about? Any news on FRED? And how easy is it to get to the new NSSS location from London? Might consider going. Stewart. -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ ICQ : 18283999 * * * Stewart's SAM Information Pages. * * * http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 17:37:38 1998 Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cable To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:07:07 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Stewart Skardon" at Sep 15, 98 04:41:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Andrew Gale X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 641 Lines: 23 > >>The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might be easier > >to > >>find one of those. > > > > > >Oh no it isn't. > > > > I've always used the lead that came with my BBC and it's printer with my SAM, > and I've never had any problems. > I think he was meaning << it's not "easier to find one of those" >> [a BBC lead] rather than << it's not "the same as the BBC one" >> :) incidentally, my parallel printer port for the SAM has an IBM PC style connector, which means it's dead easy to add things like PIC programmers on to it. Perhaps an adapter lead might be of use to some people?!! Andy From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 17:37:40 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:12:55 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: Simple question regarding printer ca MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 364 Lines: 14 > >>The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might > >>be easier to find one of those. > > > > > >Oh no it isn't. > > > > I've always used the lead that came with my BBC and it's > printer with my SAM, and I've never had any problems. I presumed the was to do with the availability, not the type of cable. Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 18:56:45 1998 Message-ID: <35FF170D.2CD@persona.clara.net> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:40:29 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 340 Lines: 20 Stewart Skardon wrote: > Any news on FRED? Out very shortly from what I understand. > And how easy is it to get to the new NSSS location from London? > Might consider going. There's a site posted up on CSS.... let me just grab the URL for u.... Ah... here it is! http://nsss.home.ml.org/ > Stewart. Gosh, Aren't I helpful! David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 15 18:56:46 1998 Message-ID: <35FF188B.B21@persona.clara.net> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:46:51 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: CP/M 2.2 QED References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 346 Lines: 16 Jarek Adamski wrote: > > Hi! > > I made demo version of my CP/M 2.2 QED. If anyone wanted > to test it please let me know. I can also post it here. > It is 20KB long in uuencode. The basic knowledle of CP/M > is needed because there are no docs included. > > Yarek. Wouldn't mind seeing that Yarek... Please can u email it to me? Ta, David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 16 11:22:38 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <24406a38.35ff8e8f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 06:10:23 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cable Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1141 Lines: 52 In a message dated 15/09/98 16:14:02, you write: > >On Mon 14 Sep 98 (17:19:16), brenchleyr@aol.com wrote: >>In a message dated 14/09/98 11:03:55, you write: >> >>> >>>> Where can I buy a SAM printer cable, and at what price? (Other than >>>> Gloucester). > >I'm not sure, but I think Maplins still sell the BBC Style ones. >Or if you ask me nicely Phil, I'll let you have my spare one :-) >Of course, I can't guarantee that it will work, but if it saves you some >cash... > >>> >>>The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might be easier >>to >>>find one of those. >> >> >>Oh no it isn't. >> >> > >I've always used the lead that came with my BBC and it's printer with my SAM, >and I've never had any problems. > >>AFAIKFO no one makes them anymore (well, except me). >> > >[Snip} > >>.. >>Bob. > >Stewart. The "Oh no it isn't" was referring to how easy it would be to get a printer cable. BBC cables are normally only 1m long, whereas the ones we supply are either 1.5 or 2m long. Maplin have dropped the BBC cable from their range, although some shops may still have one. -- Bob. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 16 11:31:18 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <23f1628a.35ff8e8d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 06:10:21 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cable Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1820 Lines: 58 In a message dated 14/09/98 23:38:13, you write: >On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:47:38 -0700, David said: >> BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: >> > >The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might be easier to >> > >find one of those. >> > >> > Oh no it isn't. >> > >> > AFAIKFO no one makes them anymore (well, except me). > >It can't be more than five years since I last bought a BBC printer cable. :-) > >> > You need 2m 26way IDC ribon cable, Maplin part number XR75S @ 42p per >metre, >> > 1 26way IDC socket, Maplin part number FG85G @ 149P each, and 1 >Centronics >> > connector, Maplin part number FJ62S @265p each. > >Which I reckon up to 498p. The wonders of modern education :) But don't forget the p&p or a visit to the local Maplin shop. > >> > You will also need either a crimping tool, part number GW34M @ 1049p or a >vice >> > and very great care. > >I've wired up many an IDC connector in the past without a tool with only a >few foul-ups. :-) Difficult but by no means impossible. Ah! but you are clever :) But true, you can do the job with a vice, I even once used a door to crimp a connector on. But given the price of the connectors it is far safer to use the correct tool. > >> > Makes the 795p we charge look quit good does it not? > >Only if you need a new tool for every three cables. But you forget the labour, the postage, the packing and of course the fact that you can say you have something made by me :) > >> BOB! You're alive! > >Didn't you see him on "The Royle Family" today? >Incidentally, for obscure reasons I saw a bit of Newsnight with the sound >turned off tonight and was rather confused to see Jack Charlton and Clive >Sinclair apparently talking about American politics... They prolly know as much about it as most americans do. > >imc Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 16 15:41:21 1998 Message-ID: <+VHaN8AR57$1EwCf@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:34:09 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <35FF170D.2CD@persona.clara.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 <$VxXLQuZU$4mQqTYvsU5pxbLsf> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 822 Lines: 23 In message <35FF170D.2CD@persona.clara.net>, David writes >Stewart Skardon wrote: > >> Any news on FRED? > >Out very shortly from what I understand. I think that FRED can be pretty much classed as dead, really. Graham Goring -- /=====================================================================\ | If you'd like to see a game with the depth of gameplay of Elite and | | Frontier on the PlayStation, then please sign the petition by | | sending a mail headed "Elite/Frontier Petition", including your | | FULL name and E-Mail address to: petition@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk | \===========Or do you *really* want another Wing Commander?===========/ Oh crap! Someone's stolen the vowels from my domain name! ------------Lucky I have some spares: u e a o------------ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 16 19:12:45 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:55:40 GMT Message-ID: <36008ebe.842104@mail.enterprise.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 730 Lines: 18 On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:29:17 +0100, Dave wrote: >if anyone wants to test my little samdisk-alike that can read (and, in a >matter of days, write) sam disks to .dsk files on hard drive, send me an >email. from my small amount of testing, it seems to work on computers on >which samtoms, samdisk and teledisk barf. but that might just be chance, >and it might turn out my prog doesn't work on your pc either. Cheers Dave! I just thought I'd let everyone know that this is the best SAM disk reader I've tried so far. It has read every disk I've thrown at it. Effing brilliant! I can finally get all the old stuff onto CD. :-) Dave Whitmore (who really does leave Enty at the end of the September) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 16 19:12:45 1998 Message-ID: <36006469.2403@persona.clara.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:22:49 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? References: <+VHaN8AR57$1EwCf@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 445 Lines: 19 Graham Goring wrote: > > In message <35FF170D.2CD@persona.clara.net>, David > writes > >Stewart Skardon wrote: > > > >> Any news on FRED? > > > >Out very shortly from what I understand. > > I think that FRED can be pretty much classed as dead, really. > > Graham Goring > > -- > That's rather a sweeping judgement. If you want to know what's going on with the magazine - have u tried contacting the publisher...? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 16 20:51:45 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: Christof Odenthal Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:18:07 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000801bde085$844839c0$6053bec3@polanski.anysim.de> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: Re: CP/M 2.2 QED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 393 Lines: 14 Hi! Christof Odenthal wrote: > It's better when you give an email address where the folks can ask for > it or if you give a ftp- or www-address where they can download it. I only cannot guarantee that email addresses used by me will be valid tommorow. Also I cannot point to ftp or www. Don't afraid. I won't post binaries here. Even so short. Also after my name at the end. ;-) -- Yarek. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 16 20:51:52 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: Dan Doore Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:22:10 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: RE: CP/M 2.2 QED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 286 Lines: 14 Hi! Dan Doore wrote: > You can FTP files to ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/sam-coupe/incoming/ I want it to go to the testers, not to the storage. -- Yarek. Ps. Insted of "I want to see new program, please send it to me" I hear something like "No, no, please don't make cattle here". From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 16 20:51:53 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:41:06 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: The removal to PC cover. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 80 Lines: 5 Hi! Does anyone have SAM in PC cover? I'm going to do such removal. -- Yarek. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 16 23:28:48 1998 Message-ID: <36009DA0.61DE@persona.clara.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:26:56 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 672 Lines: 22 Jarek Adamski wrote: > > Hi! > > Does anyone have SAM in PC cover? I'm going to do such removal. > -- > Yarek. I know of a couple of people who have started doing that.... I don't know how far they have gotten though. The first is Derek Morgan, who has a modified SAM which he basically uses purely for backing up his PD Software (he runs SAM PD if you didn't know) ... The other is A L Bennet - who has a number of SAM expansions powered up in a PC case... I don't know how far the actual computer is from being completely in the case. Justin or Andrew Gale - can't remember which - has designed a PC Keyboard interface... so perhaps they'll be able to help. David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 02:21:33 1998 Delivered-To: adrian.francis@cableinet.co.uk Message-ID: <+VHaN8AR57$1EwCf@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:34:09 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <35FF170D.2CD@persona.clara.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 <$VxXLQuZU$4mQqTYvsU5pxbLsf> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 822 Lines: 23 In message <35FF170D.2CD@persona.clara.net>, David writes >Stewart Skardon wrote: > >> Any news on FRED? > >Out very shortly from what I understand. I think that FRED can be pretty much classed as dead, really. Graham Goring -- /=====================================================================\ | If you'd like to see a game with the depth of gameplay of Elite and | | Frontier on the PlayStation, then please sign the petition by | | sending a mail headed "Elite/Frontier Petition", including your | | FULL name and E-Mail address to: petition@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk | \===========Or do you *really* want another Wing Commander?===========/ Oh crap! Someone's stolen the vowels from my domain name! ------------Lucky I have some spares: u e a o------------ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 09:06:00 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 8:58:48 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: The removal to PC cover. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 780 Lines: 20 > > Does anyone have SAM in PC cover? I'm going to do such removal. > > I know of a couple of people who have started doing that.... I don't > know how far they have gotten though. I saw a bloke at the last Gloucester Show who had his Sam in a mini tower, he had got around the problem of a separate keyboard by wiring up his own set of individual keyswitches and slapping that on the end of a big ribbon cable. It looked a bit mad inside, but worked fine. If whoever was working on the PC Keyboard interface has done one, then I might have to look into stashing my Sam in a new case, since with the amount of stuff dangling off the back and the ATOM inside it's looking a bit cramped. Did I mention that I have an ATOM with a 1.2Gb Disc in it? :-) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 09:31:43 1998 Message-Id: From: eep2ag@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Andrew Gale) Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:20:58 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Dan Doore" at Sep 17, 98 08:58:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1089 Lines: 24 > I saw a bloke at the last Gloucester Show who had his Sam in a mini > tower, he had got around the problem of a separate keyboard by wiring up > his own set of individual keyswitches and slapping that on the end of a > big ribbon cable. > This was pretty much how the separated keyboard on the Commodore 128D worked... Since there are 9 columns of 8 rows, that's be a 17 way ribbon cable (i.e. 1.7" wide). I was thinking of desoldering the two keyboard connectors from the pcb and putting a 25way D socket in - using the 12 pin row to replace the 8-way connector, and the 13 pin row for the 9-way connector. Then transferring all the gubbins from the SAM into the tower case, and leaving the keyboard in the sam case. Then making a 1m lead or so with the ribbon cable, with a 25way D plug at one and and the two keyboard connectors at the other, and using the whole sam case as the separate keyboard. Admittedly a pretty big keyboars, but it seems fairly workable. The only thing is: we've now got to hunt around for those disc drive blanking plates to fill the holes! Andy From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 10:27:14 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <80256682.00342512.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:29:56 +0100 Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 159 Lines: 7 >Justin or Andrew Gale - can't remember which - has designed a PC >Keyboard interface... so perhaps they'll be able to help. It was Andrew, not me. Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 10:38:14 1998 Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:31:44 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <80256682.00342512.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> from "Justin_Skists@case.co.uk" at Sep 17, 98 10:29:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Andrew Gale X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 268 Lines: 10 > >Justin or Andrew Gale - can't remember which - has designed a PC > >Keyboard interface... so perhaps they'll be able to help. > > It was Andrew, not me. > Yup, it was me.... and hopefully in a few weekends' time I should have some time to finish it off... Andy From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 15:33:56 1998 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:25:24 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <36006469.2403@persona.clara.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 <$VxXLQuZU$4mQqTYvsU5pxbLsf> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1206 Lines: 33 In message <36006469.2403@persona.clara.net>, David writes >Graham Goring wrote: >> >> In message <35FF170D.2CD@persona.clara.net>, David >> writes >> >Stewart Skardon wrote: >> > >> >> Any news on FRED? >> > >> >Out very shortly from what I understand. >> >> I think that FRED can be pretty much classed as dead, really. >> >That's rather a sweeping judgement. If you want to know what's going on >with the magazine - have u tried contacting the publisher...? Nope. But I'd call any magazine that has gaps of about 6 months between issues dead by normal standards. Graham Goring -- /=====================================================================\ | If you'd like to see a game with the depth of gameplay of Elite and | | Frontier on the PlayStation, then please sign the petition by | | sending a mail headed "Elite/Frontier Petition", including your | | FULL name and E-Mail address to: petition@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk | \===========Or do you *really* want another Wing Commander?===========/ Oh crap! Someone's stolen the vowels from my domain name! ------------Lucky I have some spares: u e a o------------ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 17:18:26 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: Andrew Gale Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:56:47 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 297 Lines: 15 Hi! Andrew Gale wrote: > Yup, it was me.... and hopefully in a few weekends' time I should > have some time to finish it off... Did you use microcontroller (which one?) or EPROM matrix? I'm thinking about connecting PCKBD to the MIDI IN/OUT. It should work at least with my CP/M. -- Yarek. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 17:18:27 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: Dan Doore Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:35:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: RE: The removal to PC cover. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 575 Lines: 20 Dan Doore wrote: > If whoever was working on the PC Keyboard interface has done one, then I > might have to look into stashing my Sam in a new case, since with the > amount of stuff dangling off the back and the ATOM inside it's looking a > bit cramped. It looks like ATOM is internal inteface. Nobody wants to explain details to me... Do you have SAMBUS? > Did I mention that I have an ATOM with a 1.2Gb Disc in it? :-) It is called "gigalomania". ;-) Do you use BSDOS with 1500 RECORDs??? Did you think about IOmega ZIP 100MB for easy data transfer??? ;-) -- Yarek. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 17:18:27 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: Andrew Gale Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:51:46 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1330 Lines: 38 Andrew Gale wrote: > Since there are 9 columns of 8 rows, that's be a 17 way ribbon cable > (i.e. 1.7" wide). I think using 74LS148 or 74LS147 could reduce 9 columns to 4 wires. And 2 more must be added as power for decoders. This gives 14. The 8 rows can be coded by 74LS151 and decoded by 74LS259 what reduces required wires to 4. As result we have 10 wires round cable which can be 2m long because of amplifiers. This is theory, I didn't try yet. > I was thinking of desoldering the two keyboard connectors from > the pcb and putting a 25way D socket in - using the 12 pin row > to replace the 8-way connector, and the 13 pin row for the 9-way > connector. How do you want to wire the D-Sub DB25 connector? Male or female? Let's make any standard for this. With power signals, LED control and beeper(s?). DB25 could be mistaken with RS232 or Centronics connector. Isn't better to use D-Sub DB23 male (at SAM-pcb side)??? RS232 signal voltage can damage ASIC! > The only thing is: we've now got to hunt around for those disc drive > blanking plates to fill the holes! I'm going to exchange "SAM Drive" to ordinary PC drive. I don't have the best opinion about "SAM Drive" mechanics. The 1770 controller with ordinary PC drive doesn't want to read disks saved on "SAM Drive" (has troubles with some sectors). -- Yarek. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 21:37:31 1998 Message-ID: <3601C91E.64C0@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:44:46 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id VAA23492 Status: RO Content-Length: 500 Lines: 15 Dan Doore wrote: > > Did I mention that I have an ATOM with a 1.2Gb Disc in it? :-) > > Dan. I'll have to up my mere 40 Mb very soon ;) The Atom SAM Paint already uses up a few RECORD's with assorted fonts etc. -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http://www.persona.clara.net | +--------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 21:37:32 1998 Message-ID: <3601C9AE.15C1@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:47:10 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 864 Lines: 31 Graham Goring wrote: > > In message <36006469.2403@persona.clara.net>, David > writes > >Graham Goring wrote: > >> > >> In message <35FF170D.2CD@persona.clara.net>, David > >> writes > >> >Stewart Skardon wrote: > >> > > >> >> Any news on FRED? > >> > > >> >Out very shortly from what I understand. > >> > >> I think that FRED can be pretty much classed as dead, really. > >> > >That's rather a sweeping judgement. If you want to know what's going on > >with the magazine - have u tried contacting the publisher...? > > Nope. But I'd call any magazine that has gaps of about 6 months between > issues dead by normal standards. > > Graham Goring > > -- > About 4-5 months of which apparently seem to have involved waiting for Darren Wileman to sort out things ... oh and he still owes me some hardware to! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 21:37:33 1998 Message-ID: <3601CA28.7C84@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:49:12 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 351 Lines: 13 Jarek Adamski wrote: > Do you have SAMBUS? Nope... I think Dan's bought an APE-3 ;) > > Did I mention that I have an ATOM with a 1.2Gb Disc in it? :-) > It is called "gigalomania". ;-) > > Do you use BSDOS with 1500 RECORDs??? Since BDos works with an 8 Gig HD with only a second or two to sort out all the records, that's not such a handycap. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 17 22:59:12 1998 Message-ID: <3601F1FB.2963@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:39:07 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? References: <3601C9AE.15C1@persona.clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 858 Lines: 27 David wrote: > > Graham Goring wrote: > > > > In message <36006469.2403@persona.clara.net>, David > > writes > > >Graham Goring wrote: > > >> > > >> In message <35FF170D.2CD@persona.clara.net>, David > > >> writes > > >> >Stewart Skardon wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Any news on FRED? > > >> > > > >> >Out very shortly from what I understand. > > >> > > >> I think that FRED can be pretty much classed as dead, really. > > >> > > >That's rather a sweeping judgement. If you want to know what's going on > > >with the magazine - have u tried contacting the publisher...? > > > > Nope. But I'd call any magazine that has gaps of about 6 months between > > issues dead by normal standards. Rather like Clara net! I sent the last few emails about 2 hours ago! Half tempted to switch to AOL :) (I am kidding!) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 08:22:30 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 8:14:09 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: The removal to PC cover. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 757 Lines: 26 > It looks like ATOM is internal inteface. Nobody wants to explain > details to me... Hokay, the ATOM is an internal IDE interface that connects to the second floppy connector. If you have a 2.5" drive then the whole lot can be fitted (and powered) inside the case, if you have a standard size drive then you will have to dangle the ribbon cable out the back and power it from elsewhere. > Do you have SAMBUS? Nope, I have a three-port APE (Audio, Power & Expansion IIRC) which holds my Comms IF and my Meg. I also have a clock to fit but I haven't gotten around to that yet. > > Did I mention that I have an ATOM with a 1.2Gb Disc in it? :-) > > It is called "gigalomania". ;-) > > Do you use BSDOS with 1500 RECORDs??? Oh yes :-) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 08:39:13 1998 Message-ID: <002f01bde2d5$6cb8be40$f03ca8c0@DavesPC.orctel.internal> From: Dave To: sam-users Subject: Hideously off topic Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:24:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 254 Lines: 13 Any suggestions? http://www.orctel.co.uk/caption.cgi God, office humour. Doesn't it just kill you. DMZ --- Colour of the day : Gold Quote of the day : "Smithers, loose the flying monkeys" - Mr Burns Song of the day : Welcome To Paradise - Front 242 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 08:39:13 1998 From: Edwin Blink Organization: Hanzehogeschool Groningen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:32:56 MET Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <92B6E7A51B3@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 706 Lines: 19 > Does anyone have SAM in PC cover? I'm going to do such removal. > -- > Yarek. Well I've got my 3.5" hard disk build in my SAM. Andquite happy with it. But as I'm currently have a CD ROM drive attached as a slave using the ATAPI stuff written by Slawek Grodkowski Maybe I will in the near future. Once The keyboard problem is solved. I've also got a idea to use a PC keyboard. I know how its works and even wrote some code to read the keys and print the codes,control the LEDs and playing a E-tracker tune at the Same time. For the interfacing part Im thinking to use a PIC with 4 (4x4 bit dual acces RAM to make it emulate the matrix). But I've got to deal with PICs first. Edwin Blink. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 08:51:43 1998 Message-Id: <199809180747.JAA09577@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:47:18 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 774 Lines: 21 > Van: Edwin Blink > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: The removal to PC cover. > Datum: Friday, September 18, 1998 11:32 > > > Does anyone have SAM in PC cover? I'm going to do such removal. > > -- > > Yarek. > > Well I've got my 3.5" hard disk build in my SAM. Andquite happy with > it. But as I'm currently have a CD ROM drive attached as a slave > using the ATAPI stuff written by Slawek Grodkowski Maybe I will in > the near future. Once The keyboard problem is solved. You have a CD ROM on your Sammy? Edwin, friend I hope that you can make it to Bunnink on the 3rd of oct. This is something i want to see myself. -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] Currently listening to : Saving Private Ryan From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 09:24:00 1998 From: Edwin Blink Organization: Hanzehogeschool Groningen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:07:56 MET Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <92C040E673B@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 253 Lines: 10 .. > You have a CD ROM on your Sammy? Edwin, friend I hope that you can make it > to Bunnink on the 3rd of oct. This is something i want to see myself. I hope so. It's been a while. Looks like I migth be able to go there this time. Edwin Blink. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 09:49:18 1998 From: Edwin Blink Organization: Hanzehogeschool Groningen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:44:11 MET Subject: Internet X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <92C9E29539D@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 235 Lines: 10 Thanks to Dan Doore. I've got a little place on the net too. Have a look at some of my work at his page at: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/coupe/edwin/ You can also download the latest B DOS version 1.4e from there Edwin Blink. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 10:47:32 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: Edwin Blink Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:34:58 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <92B6E7A51B3@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 291 Lines: 13 Hi! Edwin Blink wrote: > For the interfacing part Im thinking to use a PIC with 4 (4x4 bit > dual acces RAM to make it emulate the matrix). Like 74LS670? 4*4*4 is 64 while SAM have 69 keys. What do you want to do with Spectrum programs that test keyboard with 0 in high byte? -- Yarek. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 14:01:31 1998 From: Edwin Blink Organization: Hanzehogeschool Groningen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:57:13 MET Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <930D5F9508B@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 450 Lines: 14 > > For the interfacing part Im thinking to use a PIC with 4 (4x4 bit > > dual acces RAM to make it emulate the matrix). > Like 74LS670? 4*4*4 is 64 while SAM have 69 keys. > > What do you want to do with Spectrum programs that test keyboard > with 0 in high byte? Hi byte is 0 mostly for a PRESS 'ANY KEY' test. I would map row SPACE SS M N B as the first row to scan. So one of these keys can be pressed in a ANY KEY situation. Edwin Blink. From imc Fri Sep 18 14:08:25 1998 Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. In-Reply-To: <930D5F9508B@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> from Edwin Blink at "Sep 18, 98 02:57:13 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:08:25 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 362 Lines: 10 On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:57:13 MET, Edwin Blink said: > Hi byte is 0 mostly for a PRESS 'ANY KEY' test. > I would map row SPACE SS M N B as the first row to scan. > So one of these keys can be pressed in a ANY KEY situation. Or scratch off the Windows logo from one of the keys and write ANY on it, and then you really will be able to press 'ANY KEY'. :-) imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 14:25:06 1998 From: Edwin Blink Organization: Hanzehogeschool Groningen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:17:31 MET Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <9312CBB3245@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 403 Lines: 15 > > What do you want to do with Spectrum programs that test keyboard > > with 0 in high byte? > > Hi byte is 0 mostly for a PRESS 'ANY KEY' test. > I would map row SPACE SS M N B as the first row to scan. > So one of these keys can be pressed in a ANY KEY situation. And I forgot Another option is to add another latch to deal with the hi 0 read. But two exta IC's are required. Edwin Blink. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 15:13:01 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Archives [off-topic-ish] X-Face: "J~~0'L`GfL^sW4%+i35x#X308)K/$7\]qy)UZ$`k:}Bx]6mgAA^N5,@brn/19TPn%o;j28 W7mD)UN~se8P9\3?wU.g+i9)X Date: 18 Sep 1998 15:08:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: David's message of "Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:51:42 -0700" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.070031 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.31) Emacs/20.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 305 Lines: 9 Erm, can anyone tell me either the location of the sam-users list archives or which rfc the lying pig thing is in. You know the 'if you throw it hard enough' etc. Cheers, Lee. -- I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ... For some reason my mom insists on calling it "Playing with blocks" From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 15:24:39 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] References: X-Face: "J~~0'L`GfL^sW4%+i35x#X308)K/$7\]qy)UZ$`k:}Bx]6mgAA^N5,@brn/19TPn%o;j28 W7mD)UN~se8P9\3?wU.g+i9)X Date: 18 Sep 1998 15:17:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: Lee Willis's message of "18 Sep 1998 15:08:30 +0100" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.070031 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.31) Emacs/20.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 455 Lines: 13 Lee Willis writes: > Erm, can anyone tell me either the location of the sam-users list > archives or which rfc the lying pig thing is in. You know the 'if you > throw it hard enough' etc. oops that should probably have been flying since you don't see many pigs telling porkies (Excuse the pun ...) Lee. -- I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ... For some reason my mom insists on calling it "Playing with blocks" From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 19:01:54 1998 Message-ID: <19980918175057.617.qmail@thanatos.clara.net> From: David Ledbury To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] X-Sender: persona@clara.net X-Mailer: ClaraNet WWW E-Mail Client Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 18:50:57 BST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 363 Lines: 16 > Lee Willis writes: > > > Erm, can anyone tell me either the location of the sam-users list > > archives or which rfc the lying pig thing is in. You know the 'if you > > throw it hard enough' etc. > > > Lee. Hi Lee... try here ;) http://ruby.comlab.ox.ac.uk/imc/sam-users/ HTH David -Who's struggling with only a 40 Meg HD on his SAM :( From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 19:01:56 1998 Message-ID: <36030F06.6801@persona.clara.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:55:18 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SAM-Users Mailing List Subject: SAM Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 151 Lines: 5 Can I just confirm if Bob has allowed an on-line version of the SAM Manual to be done? I may have a bash starting it after Blitz 9 is finished. David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 19:01:57 1998 Message-ID: <36030F83.7ACB@persona.clara.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:57:23 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Internet References: <92C9E29539D@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id TAA25489 Status: RO Content-Length: 716 Lines: 26 Edwin Blink wrote: > > Thanks to Dan Doore. I've got a little place on the net too. > > Have a look at some of my work at his page at: > > http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/coupe/edwin/ > > You can also download the latest B DOS version 1.4e from there > > Edwin Blink. > And if anyone needs any more space... I've got about 100 meg of web space doing bugger all at the moment... and no, that wasn't a lame pun either! David -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http://www.persona.clara.net | +--------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 19:14:30 1998 Message-ID: <3603118F.FB1@persona.clara.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:06:07 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] References: <19980918175057.617.qmail@thanatos.clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id TAA25794 Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 746 Lines: 27 David Ledbury wrote: > > > Lee Willis writes: > > > > > Erm, can anyone tell me either the location of the sam-users list > > > archives or which rfc the lying pig thing is in. You know the 'if you > > > throw it hard enough' etc. > > > > > > Lee. > > Hi Lee... try here ;) > > http://ruby.comlab.ox.ac.uk/imc/sam-users/ > > HTH > > David -Who's struggling with only a 40 Meg HD on his SAM :( Hmmm... Didn't mean to send that twice! -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http://www.persona.clara.net | +--------------------------------------------+ From imc Fri Sep 18 19:18:50 1998 Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] In-Reply-To: <3603118F.FB1@persona.clara.net> from David at "Sep 18, 98 07:06:07 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:18:50 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO Content-Length: 388 Lines: 10 On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:06:07 -0700, David said: > +--------------------------------------------+ > | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | What codepage are you using? Certainly not the iso-8859-1 that your headers claim. The character you seem to have put after "SAM Coup" is a control character in iso-8859-1, while in Win95 it is "S" with a "v"-shaped accent above it. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 19:38:35 1998 Message-ID: <36031794.2460@persona.clara.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:31:48 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] References: <199809181818.TAA09493@ruby.comlab> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id TAA26131 Status: RO Content-Length: 790 Lines: 22 Ian Collier wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:06:07 -0700, David said: > > +--------------------------------------------+ > > | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | > > What codepage are you using? Certainly not the iso-8859-1 > that your headers claim. The character you seem to have > put after "SAM Coup" is a control character in iso-8859-1, > while in Win95 it is "S" with a "v"-shaped accent above it. > > imc F!ck knows... I thought I turned off that footer ages ago anyway ;) -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http://www.persona.clara.net | +--------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 19:51:33 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199809181818.TAA09493@ruby.comlab> References: <3603118F.FB1@persona.clara.net> from David at "Sep 18, 98 07:06:07 pm" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:44:58 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id TAA26315 Status: RO Content-Length: 848 Lines: 24 At 7:18 pm +0100 18/9/98, Ian Collier wrote: >On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:06:07 -0700, David said: >> +--------------------------------------------+ >> | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | > >What codepage are you using? Certainly not the iso-8859-1 >that your headers claim. The character you seem to have >put after "SAM Coup" is a control character in iso-8859-1, >while in Win95 it is "S" with a "v"-shaped accent above it. On my Mac it's the ellipsis character - three dots in the space of one character. Just out of interest, do these work? Sam Coupé SAM COUPÉ Andrew -- | Andrew Collier | email asc25@cam.ac.uk | Talk sense to a | 1B NatSci | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/ | fool and he +----------------+-----------------------------+ calls you foolish | Selwyn College Student Computer Support Team | -- Euripides From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 18 21:08:28 1998 Message-ID: <36032C4E.3E71@persona.clara.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 21:00:14 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] References: <3603118F.FB1@persona.clara.net> from David at "Sep 18, 98 07:06:07 pm" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id VAA27392 Status: RO Content-Length: 178 Lines: 7 Andrew Collier wrote: > On my Mac it's the ellipsis character - three dots in the space of one > character. > > Just out of interest, do these work? Sam Coupé SAM COUPÉ Yep :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 19 17:49:10 1998 Message-ID: <19980919164046.23837.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [205.217.16.196] From: Simon Cooke To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:40:46 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1207 Lines: 30 >> What do you want to do with Spectrum programs that test keyboard >> with 0 in high byte? > >Hi byte is 0 mostly for a PRESS 'ANY KEY' test. >I would map row SPACE SS M N B as the first row to scan. >So one of these keys can be pressed in a ANY KEY situation. Hmmm... the way Martin and I came up for doing this was this: Take a Z80 processor (any speed), and an 8K eprom, plus a few gates to handle I/O with the keyboard. (any I/O port becomes keyboard access). Program the Z80 to read the clocked serial data in (dead easy) from the keyboard, decode the scan codes (scan mode 3 is the best one to use -- it gives single code lookups for every possible key combination, IIRC -- check the Zilog keyboard controller site for more details). Put these scan codes into a 255 byte buffer, doing all the necessary combinatorics. (255 byte, as the last one is not reading any key data, IIRC, so you just float high). Hey presto! A little wait-state logic, and you're sorted. We had a prototype at one point -- worked quite well. I had the keyboard LED's cycling and everything... Simon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 19 20:21:48 1998 Message-Id: <199809191919.VAA12811@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: Sam users Subject: Master & Slave Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:19:06 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 504 Lines: 14 Hi I bought a seccond HD today (540MB, just 100 Dutch guilders, cheap?), and now i want use it with my first HD (204MB), but a small problem is rising, driving me to a point where I am going to say foul words. How the hell do i set both drives, a master and a slave, how do i set the jumpers and wich one is first on the cable and who goes next. Both drives are Seagates, and in working order. -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] Currently listening to : Saving Private Ryan From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 19 20:43:44 1998 Message-ID: <36047880.F98@persona.clara.net> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:37:36 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Master & Slave References: <199809191919.VAA12811@mailserv.caiw.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 645 Lines: 22 Robert van der Veeke wrote: > > Hi > > I bought a seccond HD today (540MB, just 100 Dutch guilders, cheap?), and > now i want use it with my first HD (204MB), but a small problem is rising, > driving me to a point where I am going to say foul words. > > How the hell do i set both drives, a master and a slave, how do i set the > jumpers and wich one is first on the cable and who goes next. Both drives > are Seagates, and in working order. Atom or PC? David > -- > Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics > [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] > Currently listening to : Saving Private Ryan Currently listening to : Diva - The Sun Always Shines On TV ;) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 19 21:03:57 1998 From: Dean Liversidge To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:52:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] In-reply-to: References: <199809181818.TAA09493@ruby.comlab> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id VAA21048 Status: RO Content-Length: 149 Lines: 10 On 18 Sep 98, at 19:44, Andrew Collier wrote: > > Just out of interest, do these work? Sam Coupé SAM COUPÉ > > Andrew NOPE ! -- Dean Liversidge From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 19 21:03:58 1998 Message-Id: <199809191955.VAA19192@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Master & Slave Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:55:02 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 533 Lines: 18 > Van: David > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Master & Slave > Datum: Sunday, September 20, 1998 5:37 > Atom or PC? Atom I think it can be done, or is there something Edwin did not tell me when he showed me his Atom with two HD's attached to it? -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] Currently listening to : Saving Private Ryan* Not completely true, it is now Babylon 5 "Messages from Earth", SPR was the last one i bought (but it won't hold that status for long). From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 19 21:25:53 1998 From: Dean Liversidge To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:18:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Master & Slave In-reply-to: <199809191919.VAA12811@mailserv.caiw.nl> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1847 Lines: 61 On 19 Sep 98, at 21:19, Robert van der Veeke wrote: > Hi > > I bought a seccond HD today (540MB, just 100 Dutch guilders, cheap?), and > now i want use it with my first HD (204MB), but a small problem is rising, > driving me to a point where I am going to say foul words. > > How the hell do i set both drives, a master and a slave, how do i set the > jumpers and wich one is first on the cable and who goes next. Both drives > are Seagates, and in working order. > It Depends on whether the drives can handle master/slave combination properly, they may not be 100% ATA complient. The order on the cable is not an issue, the connectors are mirrored. There are a lot of older drives, that will not work correctly in some combinations of Ma/Sl, they are mostly sub 540 Meg (ie 240 etc) The number of phone calls i had on the tech help line when trying to upgrade a system with a 200Meg drive and add a 1-2Gig drive, but it wouldnt accept it..... I can't remember if it needed the newer drive as the Master or slave ?? hmmm, sorry. Some drives, especially Conner (now Seagate) were designed before the proper ATA was universal, and hence were not compatable with other make drives on the same cable. Generaly there three main configurations for jumpers for master and slave: o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o | | | | | C S M C 5 S L A D 1 General CS = ON = Cable Select SL = ON = Slave MA = ON = Master Conner C/D = ON = C (master) / OFF = D (slave) Maxtor 20/51 = ON = Master / OFF = Slave It may be worth looking on Seagate's WEB pages for the spec on you actual Model No., it should give details of the pin-outs & jumpers. -- Dean Liversidge From imc Sat Sep 19 21:32:41 1998 Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] In-Reply-To: from Dean Liversidge at "Sep 19, 98 08:52:03 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:32:41 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO Content-Length: 467 Lines: 13 On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:52:03 +0100, Dean Liversidge said: > On 18 Sep 98, at 19:44, Andrew Collier wrote: > > Just out of interest, do these work? Sam Coupé SAM COUPÉ > NOPE ! Yes they do. You even quoted them back correctly. :-) X/Unix, Win95 and Mac OS seem to use the relevant character set (iso-8859-1) by default (although the latter two add incompatible extenstions to it). If you are using something else you might have to search for a suitable font. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 19 21:58:09 1998 From: Dean Liversidge To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:51:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] In-reply-to: <199809192032.VAA10764@ruby.comlab> References: from Dean Liversidge at "Sep 19, 98 08:52:03 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id VAA21493 Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1339 Lines: 48 On 19 Sep 98, at 21:32, Ian Collier wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:52:03 +0100, Dean Liversidge said: > > On 18 Sep 98, at 19:44, Andrew Collier wrote: > > > Just out of interest, do these work? Sam Coupé SAM COUPÉ > > NOPE ! > > Yes they do. You even quoted them back correctly. :-) I only quoted back what you sent, it'll look the same on your system as long as it doesn't get translated. :) > X/Unix, Win95 and Mac OS seem to use the relevant character set (iso-8859-1) > by default (although the latter two add incompatible extenstions to it). > If you are using something else you might have to search for a suitable > font. > > imc I've got just the font i want, Terminal code-page 437, just as though i wasnt using windows :) Ah but they dont apear properly on my system because I use code-page 437, because this gives me the proper DOS double-line box character set where CHR$(201)=É which is the top/left corner double-box. Just because windows wants me to use codepage 850, i dont want to, because when i connect to a BBS or something that uses hi-ansi graphincs, it looks crap. I thought mime was supposed to handle all this crap. I hate all this fancy mail rubbish, mime and html e-mail and all that stuff should be left to www were it belongs. Plain text, quick and simple. :) -- Dean Liversidge From imc Sat Sep 19 22:44:24 1998 Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] In-Reply-To: from Dean Liversidge at "Sep 19, 98 09:51:14 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:44:24 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO Content-Length: 891 Lines: 23 On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:51:14 +0100, Dean Liversidge said: > Just because windows wants me to use codepage 850, i dont want to, > because when i connect to a BBS or something that uses hi-ansi > graphincs, it looks crap. So you get what you asked for. Hardly anyone on the Internet uses codepage 437 so when people send you high-ASCII characters they won't look right. > I thought mime was supposed to handle all this crap. Well the headers of the message did state "charset=iso-8859-1" so if your mailer didn't use the right font then it is at fault. > I hate all this fancy mail rubbish, mime and html e-mail and all that > stuff should be left to www were it belongs. Correct, HTML belongs on the web and not in email, but MIME is specifically an email protocol so it doesn't make sense to "leave it to the www". imc Thķs ·sļg ģs jūst tų ćńńõ’ ¶źųž£č wh¤ šŗń“t µ$ė Ļ§Ų­8859­1. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 20 00:15:27 1998 Message-ID: <3604A9CC.2F65@persona.clara.net> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 00:07:56 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Master & Slave References: <199809191955.VAA19192@mailserv.caiw.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 685 Lines: 22 Robert van der Veeke wrote: > > Atom or PC? > > Atom > > I think it can be done, or is there something Edwin did not tell me when he > showed me his Atom with two HD's attached to it? Yeah - IIR there's one BDOS variable that handles that... I'm sure one needs to be set for the dual status. Edwin's probably back on line on Monday - think he get's access at work. > Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics > [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] > Currently listening to : Saving Private Ryan* > > Not completely true, it is now Babylon 5 "Messages from Earth", SPR was the > last one i bought (but it won't hold that status for long). Currently listening to: The Sun Always Shines on TV - Diva From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 20 00:57:09 1998 Message-Id: <199809192349.BAA25628@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Master & Slave Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 01:49:24 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 648 Lines: 25 > Van: David > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Master & Slave > Datum: Sunday, September 20, 1998 9:07 > Yeah - IIR there's one BDOS variable that handles that... I'm sure one > needs to be set for the dual status. Found it DVAR 34: Harddisk select (&A0 master/&B0 slave) DVAR 35 Call this dvar to re initialise master/slave harddisk RECORD 1:POKE DVAR 34,&A0 or &B0:CALL DVAR 35 Lets me switch the damn disks. > Edwin's probably back on line on Monday - think he get's access at work. Yep :) -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] Currently listening to : Saving Private Ryan From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 20 16:37:10 1998 From: Dean Liversidge To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:16:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] In-reply-to: <199809192144.WAA10845@ruby.comlab> References: from Dean Liversidge at "Sep 19, 98 09:51:14 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id QAA10551 Status: RO Content-Length: 1615 Lines: 50 On 19 Sep 98, at 22:44, Ian Collier wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:51:14 +0100, Dean Liversidge said: > > Just because windows wants me to use codepage 850, i dont want to, > > because when i connect to a BBS or something that uses hi-ansi > > graphincs, it looks crap. > > So you get what you asked for. Hardly anyone on the Internet uses Sure do :) > codepage 437 so when people send you high-ASCII characters they > won't look right. > > > I thought mime was supposed to handle all this crap. > > Well the headers of the message did state "charset=iso-8859-1" so > if your mailer didn't use the right font then it is at fault. That could well be the case, though i am using pmail v301, i think it's stil quite buggy, and it's set with ISO-8859-1 as it's mime character set. But i thought that the parts that had mime content in messages were supposed to be sectioned of with borders labeling the mime etc. > > > I hate all this fancy mail rubbish, mime and html e-mail and all that > > stuff should be left to www were it belongs. > > Correct, HTML belongs on the web and not in email, but MIME is specifically > an email protocol so it doesn't make sense to "leave it to the www". Thats true, but i wasn't really meaning that, i just think that when it adds in all the mime seperation and stuff like that, it takes up twice as much space as the plain vanilla version. > Thķs ·sļg ģs jūst tų ćńńõ’ ¶źųž£č wh¤ šŗń“t µ$ė Ļ§Ų­8859­1. Hmmm, looks like juberish to me, but what the hell, it doesnt bother me. Unless you were calling me something not verry nice ;-) -- Dean Liversidge From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 20 16:59:20 1998 Message-ID: <360595BE.3EFA@persona.clara.net> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:54:38 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] References: from Dean Liversidge at "Sep 19, 98 09:51:14 pm" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id QAA10767 Status: RO Content-Length: 326 Lines: 15 Dean Liversidge wrote: > > Thķs ·sļg ģs jūst tų ćńńõ’ ¶źųž£č wh¤ šŗń“t µ$ė Ļ§Ų­8859­1. > Hmmm, looks like juberish to me, but what the hell, it doesnt bother me. > Unless you were calling me something not verry nice ;-) It was.... This sig is just to annoy people who don't use IS0-8859-1. ;) > -- > Dean Liversidge From imc Sun Sep 20 18:37:05 1998 Subject: Keyboard To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:37:05 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 302 Lines: 8 Oh dear. The keys ZXCV and shift have completely stopped working. I have stapled a piece of aluminium foil to the keyboard underlay, but it isn't a terribly neat or robust fix... I wonder what are the chances of getting a new one - or should I wait until the PC keyboard interface is available? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 21 08:31:15 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 8:24:42 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: Keyboard MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 228 Lines: 7 > I wonder what are the chances of getting a new one - or should I > wait until the PC keyboard interface is available? At the last Gloucester show a certain Mr Brenchley had a number of new Sam keyboards on sale... Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 21 09:45:47 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] References: <199809192144.WAA10845@ruby.comlab> X-Face: "J~~0'L`GfL^sW4%+i35x#X308)K/$7\]qy)UZ$`k:}Bx]6mgAA^N5,@brn/19TPn%o;j28 W7mD)UN~se8P9\3?wU.g+i9)X Date: 21 Sep 1998 09:42:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: Ian Collier's message of "Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:44:24 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.070031 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.31) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id JAA02239 Status: RO Content-Length: 313 Lines: 10 Ian Collier writes: > Thķs ·sļg ģs jūst tų ćńńõ’ ¶źųž£č wh¤ šŗń“t µ$ė Ļ§Ų­8859­1. {Giggles} As someone whose mail reader has recently become MIME-aware ;) Lee. -- I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ... For some reason my mom insists on calling it "Playing with blocks" From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 21 09:52:10 1998 Subject: svga monitors To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:47:45 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Lee Willis" at Sep 21, 98 09:42:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Andrew Gale X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 146 Lines: 5 Does anyone know if many PC monitors can cope with a frame rate of 50Hz? I was thinking of a design for a Coupe horizontal scan doubler.... Andy From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 21 11:55:56 1998 From: Edwin Blink Organization: Hanzehogeschool Groningen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:47:10 MET Subject: Re: Master & Slave X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <976ADFC56ED@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 823 Lines: 20 > I bought a seccond HD today (540MB, just 100 Dutch guilders, cheap?), and > now i want use it with my first HD (204MB), but a small problem is rising, > driving me to a point where I am going to say foul words. > How the hell do i set both drives, a master and a slave - Often you need to take the jumper from the Slave and add it to the master.(jumper on SP(=SlavePresent) and on DS (Drive Select) ) - However some drives don't require A extra jumper if a slave is beeing used. In such a case only the slaves jumper is removed. I hooked up old HDs and new and all brands together and they worked well together. Have a look at the top of the HDs if theres any info or some letters near the jumper. It might also be handy know what kind of jumper the HDs got. (2x3 pins or 2x6 pins or so) Edwin Blink. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 21 15:48:03 1998 Message-Id: <199809211445.QAA00131@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Master & Slave Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:44:54 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 834 Lines: 25 > Van: Edwin Blink > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Master & Slave > Datum: Monday, September 21, 1998 2:47 > - Often you need to take the jumper from the Slave and add it to the > master.(jumper on SP(=SlavePresent) and on DS (Drive Select) ) Well it appeared that both drives are ATA compliant, so after al it was easy to set the jumpers to (both are Seagates remember): 0000 Master x000 Slave 0000 x000 This works for both drives, being master or slave and vice versa. You need to switch drives by poking dvar 34 with either &A0 (master) or &B0 (slave) and then call dvar 35 For the moment it works, so maybe you should take a look at the HCCS meeting in Bunnik. -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] Currently listening to : Saving Private Ryan From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 21 16:10:41 1998 From: Edwin Blink Organization: Hanzehogeschool Groningen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:57:52 MET Subject: Re: Master & Slave X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <97ADC3C75B4@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 615 Lines: 25 > For the moment it works, so maybe you should take a look at the HCCS > meeting in Bunnik. I'll see Just got a nice BASIC programm proggy for Ya to copy records from master to slave and vice versa. Which is very usefull (unless you are a floppy disk addict !!!) I'll also put it on the new B-DOS disk once I'm satisfied with B-DOS 1.5.Now that I'm talking about B-DOS: Who of you lot use/like B-DOS ?? and for those: I'm considering to remove the B-DOS info screen once B-DOS has been booted (Saves a odd 400 Bytes and makes booting a bit faster). Should I remove it or not ??? Edwin Blink. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 21 19:23:20 1998 From: Matthew Craven Organization: Umist To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:15:52 BST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: svga monitors References: from "Lee Willis" at Sep 21, 98 09:42:03 am In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-ID: <517E670037@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 265 Lines: 10 > Does anyone know if many PC monitors can cope with a frame rate > of 50Hz? I was thinking of a design for a Coupe horizontal > scan doubler.... > > Andy I thought most of them could. Mine says 50-60 Hz, and it's only a naff monitor that came with a 486. MJC. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 21 19:23:20 1998 From: David Ledbury To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:14:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Master & Slave In-reply-to: <97ADC3C75B4@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> Message-Id: <19980921181728Z49301-14509+221@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 368 Lines: 14 > Who of you lot use/like B-DOS ?? and for those: Me, but then again... I do have an Atom ;) > I'm considering to remove the B-DOS info screen once B-DOS has been > booted (Saves a odd 400 Bytes and makes booting a bit faster). > > Should I remove it or not ??? Nah... you don't want people to think it's any other DOS they've loaded! > Edwin Blink. ___\ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 21 19:23:21 1998 From: David Ledbury To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:14:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: SRAM Message-Id: <19980921181729Z49309-14509+222@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 133 Lines: 6 Any idea who's responsible for the SRAM circuit on NVG? Not, of course, Nev's ... which does actually ID the creator :) David ___\ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 23 00:10:57 1998 Message-Id: <199809221800.UAA17036@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Master & Slave Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:52:38 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 957 Lines: 31 > Van: Edwin Blink > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Master & Slave > Datum: Monday, September 21, 1998 6:57 > Just got a nice BASIC programm proggy for Ya to copy records from > master to slave and vice versa. Which is very usefull (unless you are > a floppy disk addict !!!) I am already suffering , gimme a disk. No just kidding, HCCS is the next weekend, so i can wait. > I'll also put it on the new B-DOS disk once I'm satisfied with B-DOS > 1.5.Now that I'm talking about B-DOS: > > Who of you lot use/like B-DOS ?? and for those: Ding/dong are you serious about this question? > I'm considering to remove the B-DOS info screen once B-DOS has been > booted (Saves a odd 400 Bytes and makes booting a bit faster). > > Should I remove it or not ??? No At least not in my opinion. -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] Currently listening to : Saving Private Ryan From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 23 20:26:03 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: muon.mono.org: unc owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:21:17 +0100 (BST) From: Tim To: Sam Users Mailing List Subject: Broken URL's In-Reply-To: <199809230234.DAA02457@crimson.mono.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1032 Lines: 30 Hi, In a fit of usefulness, I've just hunted out and removed the following broken links from the scrapbook. If anyone knows if they've moved elsewhere, would appreciate it if you tell me :) > The following links were checked and found to be bad: > > Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/net/specpages.html > http://www.maths.nott.ac.uk/personal/cpg/zx81/ > Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/shop/index.html > http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/ > Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/misc/index.html > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sam_supplement/ Also, has the following gone for good, don't keep up with CSS as much as I'd like... > The following links were not checked because the server was unreachable: > Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/net/specpages.html > http://www.jetman.demon.co.uk/speccy/index.html Cheers, Tim .............................................................................@/ Unc - Tim Paveley - Moderator of "The Games Room" & "Ascii Animations" http://www.mono.org/~unc/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 23 21:13:41 1998 Message-ID: <3609C579.4F97@persona.clara.net> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:07:21 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Broken URL's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1319 Lines: 47 Tim wrote: > > Hi, Hi, nice to see someone alive on this list ;) > In a fit of usefulness, I've just hunted out and removed the following > broken links from the scrapbook. > > If anyone knows if they've moved elsewhere, would appreciate it if you > tell me :) > > > The following links were checked and found to be bad: > > > > Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/net/specpages.html > > http://www.maths.nott.ac.uk/personal/cpg/zx81/ Any idea who's they where? > > Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/shop/index.html > > http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/ http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ > > Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/misc/index.html > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sam_supplement/ No longer on the net.... I think David Tonks wasn't that impressed with the Internet... :( > Also, has the following gone for good, don't keep up with CSS as much as > I'd like... > > > The following links were not checked because the server was unreachable: > > Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/net/specpages.html > > http://www.jetman.demon.co.uk/speccy/index.html Think he's still around. Not sure on the URL? > Cheers, > > Tim > .............................................................................@/ David PS: What's the score on updating the FAQ? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 23 21:22:10 1998 Message-ID: <3609C6A2.1175@persona.clara.net> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:12:18 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Broken URL's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 295 Lines: 12 Tim wrote: > > The following links were not checked because the server was unreachable: > > Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/net/specpages.html > > http://www.jetman.demon.co.uk/speccy/index.html 1 min on CSS ... http://www.jetman.dircon.co.uk/speccy/index.html > Cheers, > > Tim From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 23 22:21:00 1998 From: Kevin Cooper Organization: Kevin Cooper Date: 23 Sep 98 22:14:11 +0000 Subject: Hello Message-Id: To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.0 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 89 Lines: 6 Hi Folks. I've been lurking here for quite some time now. Bye for now, Kevin Cooper. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 23 23:10:10 1998 Message-ID: <3609E0B0.7C5F@persona.clara.net> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:03:28 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no CC: Kevin@nvg.ntnu.no, Cooper@nvg.ntnu.no, kev Subject: Re: Hello References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id XAA03586 Status: RO Content-Length: 463 Lines: 19 Kevin Cooper wrote: > > Hi Folks. I've been lurking here for quite some time now. > > Bye for now, > > Kevin Cooper. Hi again Kevin, hope that doesn't mean u'r going :( -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http://www.persona.clara.net | +--------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 23 23:25:39 1998 Message-ID: <3609E0F3.48B8@persona.clara.net> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:04:35 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Who's on? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 56 Lines: 5 Hey Tim/Dan, How about a list member update? ;) David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 24 08:58:28 1998 From: Jarek Adamski To: Edwin Blink Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:17:33 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <930D5F9508B@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ZXLAND Club Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 427 Lines: 16 Hi! >> What do you want to do with Spectrum programs that test keyboard >> with 0 in high byte? > Hi byte is 0 mostly for a PRESS 'ANY KEY' test. > I would map row SPACE SS M N B as the first row to scan. > So one of these keys can be pressed in a ANY KEY situation. Port #00FE is also used for "key released" test. This won't work propely. And there's the 9th port #FFFE used to read arrow keys and key. -- Yarek. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 24 11:24:41 1998 From: Kevin Cooper Organization: Kevin Cooper Date: 24 Sep 98 10:20:35 +0000 Subject: Re: Hello Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3609E0B0.7C5F@persona.clara.net> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.0 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 145 Lines: 7 Dave L Wrote... > Hi again Kevin, hope that doesn't mean u'r going :( I don't plan to, but I'm just sort of lurking in the background. Kev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 24 17:23:52 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:50 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Broken URL's Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1281 Lines: 52 On Wed 23 Sep 98 (20:21:17 +0100), unc@mono.org wrote: >Hi, Hi Tim, > >In a fit of usefulness, I've just hunted out and removed the following >broken links from the scrapbook. You useful thing you! > >If anyone knows if they've moved elsewhere, would appreciate it if you >tell me :) > >> The following links were checked and found to be bad: >> >> Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/net/specpages.html >> http://www.maths.nott.ac.uk/personal/cpg/zx81/ >> Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/shop/index.html >> http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/ But it's not broken....I'm still there :-( Please put me back... >> Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/misc/index.html >> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sam_supplement/ [Snip] > >Cheers, > > Tim >....................................................................... >.....@/ Unc - Tim Paveley - Moderator of "The Games Room" & "Ascii >Animations" > http://www.mono.org/~unc/ > > Stewart -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ ICQ : 18283999 * * * Stewart's SAM Information Pages. * * * http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Sep 24 23:51:30 1998 Message-ID: <360B3BE5.38D3@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:44:53 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SAM-Users Mailing List Subject: Whoops! Email for Cookie and M&M Rookyard! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 114 Lines: 6 Sorry about posting this to the list, but I've lost Cookies email addres: Thanks for the Birthday card ;) David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 25 00:01:25 1998 From: Paul Walker Organization: very little To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:13:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: The removal to PC cover. Message-ID: In-reply-to: <199809181308.OAA08161@ruby.comlab> References: <930D5F9508B@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> from Edwin Blink at "Sep 18, 98 02:57:13 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) X-Hops: 1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 318 Lines: 11 > Or scratch off the Windows logo from one of the keys and Friends of mine have been known to remove those keys. With screwdrivers. Paul -- ---- MicroSoft Windows - where do you want to crash today? ---- FidoNet: 2:254/211.44 2:442/103.13 ---> http://www.craybbs.co.uk/foti <--- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 25 00:01:25 1998 From: Paul Walker Organization: very little To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:19:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Archives [off-topic-ish] Message-ID: In-reply-to: <199809192144.WAA10845@ruby.comlab> References: from Dean Liversidge at "Sep 19, 98 09:51:14 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) X-Hops: 1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 367 Lines: 11 > Well the headers of the message did state "charset=iso-8859-1" so > if your mailer didn't use the right font then it is at fault. Works fine here, and I'm using the same program. Paul -- ---- MicroSoft Windows - where do you want to crash today? ---- FidoNet: 2:254/211.44 2:442/103.13 ---> http://www.craybbs.co.uk/foti <--- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 25 12:52:35 1998 Message-ID: <002301bde877$8c70d900$6be8b094@default> From: Chris White To: sam-users Subject: Re: Whoops! Phone number Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:27:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 608 Lines: 21 More sorrys -> been looking for Malcoms Machenzise phone number (David Ledbury might help me out here) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- chriswhite@candle-light.co.uk (WeekDays) chriswhite@cid.prestel.co.uk (Weekends) ICQ: 18058908 -----Original Message----- From: David To: SAM-Users Mailing List Date: 24 September 1998 23:50 Subject: Whoops! Email for Cookie and M&M Rookyard! >Sorry about posting this to the list, but I've lost Cookies email >addres: > >Thanks for the Birthday card ;) > >David > From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 25 21:15:41 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: muon.mono.org: unc owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:05:13 +0100 (BST) From: Tim To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Broken URL's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 362 Lines: 13 On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Stewart Skardon wrote: > >> Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/shop/index.html > >> http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/ > But it's not broken....I'm still there :-( Please put me back... Done. Wierd though, dunno why the hell the script things it is bad. Any chance that it goes down for an hour early wednesday morning... ....@/ . From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Sep 25 22:05:52 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: muon.mono.org: unc owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:01:11 +0100 (BST) From: Tim To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Broken URL's In-Reply-To: <3609C579.4F97@persona.clara.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 821 Lines: 25 On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, David wrote: > Any idea who's they where? Nope, some zx81 page... > PS: What's the score on updating the FAQ? Urm, no-idea. I never liked the idea of a FAQ as I never thought that many questions were asked, and I'd rather have the info on relevant pages. Thus I just left it to graham (and at one time HTML'ised it) No idea if graham is still interested in doing it. I only really left it floating around as an "interest" sort of thing. If anyone wants to do it, they are more than welcome. I don't really ahve the time at the mo to update my pages as I'd like, so I wouldn't take it on myself. Tim ....@/ .............................................................................@/ Unc - Tim Paveley - Moderator of "The Games Room" & "Ascii Animations" http://www.mono.org/~unc/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 26 01:39:52 1998 From: Peter Harkess To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 00:02:01 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Using a syquest. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 300 Lines: 13 Hello, I was just wondering if you can use a syquest drive(same as a zip drive)with the atom?Also can it be used as a master i.e. instead of a hard drive. Also can the sam use scsi hardware and how? Kind regards -- I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours. cheers Peter Harkess From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 26 03:10:38 1998 Message-ID: <360CBAE3.5DE2@persona.clara.net> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 02:58:59 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Using a syquest. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 777 Lines: 30 Peter Harkess wrote: > > Hello, > I was just wondering if you can use a syquest drive(same as a zip > drive)with the atom?Also can it be used as a master i.e. instead of a hard > drive. In theory, I'd expect it could be done... at the end of the day it's really down to understanding how the Zip actually works. But that's the problem. Iomega are hardly forthcoming with techy details. Edwin'll be better placed technically for this ;) > Also can the sam use scsi hardware and how? Yeah, should be possible. Scsi interfacing chips are readily available. But it's software again that's the problem. And of course, each device would need it's own drivers :( > Kind regards > -- > I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours. :) > cheers > Peter Harkess From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 26 14:43:18 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 14:38:27 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Broken URL's X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <25DDAB93BC3@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1150 Lines: 36 > On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, David wrote: > > Any idea who's they where? > > Nope, some zx81 page... > > > PS: What's the score on updating the FAQ? > > Urm, no-idea. > > I never liked the idea of a FAQ as I never thought that many > questions were asked, and I'd rather have the info on relevant > pages. Thus I just left it to graham (and at one time HTML'ised it) > > No idea if graham is still interested in doing it. I only really > left it floating around as an "interest" sort of thing. If anyone > wants to do it, they are more than welcome. > > I don't really ahve the time at the mo to update my pages as I'd > like, so I wouldn't take it on myself. I might have a bash at it sometime this week - there's a very basic copy (Graham's original, I think) up on my site atm, but it's years old. > > Tim ....@/ > > .................................................................... > ........@/ Unc - Tim Paveley - Moderator of "The Games Room" & > "Ascii Animations" > http://www.mono.org/~unc/ > Peace, Love, Kisses... JohnnaPig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "Living in a new world, thinking in the past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 26 17:05:51 1998 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:58:44 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Broken URL's In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 <8OHKkEUpoELRXEckwUjJGSM0AF> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id RAA06167 Status: RO Content-Length: 1159 Lines: 26 In message , Tim writes >I never liked the idea of a FAQ as I never thought that many questions >were asked, and I'd rather have the info on relevant pages. Thus I just >left it to graham (and at one time HTML'ised it) > >No idea if graham is still interested in doing it. I only really left it >floating around as an "interest" sort of thing. If anyone wants to do it, >they are more than welcome. Hmm, I think I'm too out of touch with the SAM Coupé scene to be able to do an accurate update, TBH. Graham Goring -- /=====================================================================\ | If you'd like to see a game with the depth of gameplay of Elite and | | Frontier on the PlayStation, then please sign the petition by | | sending a mail headed "Elite/Frontier Petition", including your | | FULL name and E-Mail address to: petition@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk | \===========Or do you *really* want another Wing Commander?===========/ Oh crap! Someone's stolen the vowels from my domain name! ------------Lucky I have some spares: u e a o------------ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 26 20:24:10 1998 Message-ID: <360DAE88.610F@persona.clara.net> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:18:32 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Broken URL's References: <25DDAB93BC3@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 308 Lines: 8 The Mad Goose wrote: > > I might have a bash at it sometime this week - there's a very basic > copy (Graham's original, I think) up on my site atm, but it's years > old. Np. Perhaps u should post up any specfic queries on here... if there's anyone alive round here you should be able to fill up some gaps. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 26 21:10:01 1998 Message-ID: <19980926200207.16214.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.220.173.140] From: Simon Cooke To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Using a syquest. Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:02:06 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 700 Lines: 19 >In theory, I'd expect it could be done... at the end of the day it's >really down >to understanding how the Zip actually works. But that's the problem. >Iomega are >hardly forthcoming with techy details. > >Edwin'll be better placed technically for this ;) The internal IDE ones will work -- after all, it's all ATAPI. In fact, the parallel port Zip drives are ATAPI too. It's just the parallel port protocol which is the hard part to understand. But still, I may be able to get the docs for some of that from the Windows NT DDK when I get out to Seattle (tomorrow! Whoopee!) Simon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 26 21:23:51 1998 Message-ID: <360DBCCE.2DB6@persona.clara.net> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:19:26 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Using a syquest. References: <19980926200207.16214.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 684 Lines: 22 Simon Cooke wrote: > > >In theory, I'd expect it could be done... at the end of the day it's > >really down > >to understanding how the Zip actually works. But that's the problem. > >Iomega are > >hardly forthcoming with techy details. > > > >Edwin'll be better placed technically for this ;) > > The internal IDE ones will work -- after all, it's all ATAPI. > > In fact, the parallel port Zip drives are ATAPI too. It's just the > parallel port protocol which is the hard part to understand. But still, > I may be able to get the docs for some of that from the Windows NT DDK > when I get out to Seattle (tomorrow! Whoopee!) > > Simon -- Help's having people on the inside ;) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Sep 26 21:27:45 1998 Message-ID: <360DBDC5.1A4F@persona.clara.net> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:23:33 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Using a syquest. References: <19980926200207.16214.qmail@hotmail.com> <360DBCCE.2DB6@persona.clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 187 Lines: 12 David wrote: > > Help's having people on the inside ;) Whoops! I meant people IN on the inside... The original line sounds like Cookies about to join the PCB-H set ;) Mind u.... :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 27 00:07:31 1998 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:01:19 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Dave Subject: win coupe? In-Reply-To: <19980926200207.16214.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 3448 Lines: 72 this is an email about sound support for the/a win32 port of simcoupe. i think it was simon cooke who was talking about it, but i've since unnecessarily trashed loads of email so now i can't be sure anyone without an interest in this should probably look away now. it's basically a request for reaffirmation, guidance and warm (if wary) confidence. i've done the algo's, i know they all work. i've got loads of classes, i create a new thread to handle the actual sound generation using the windows multimedia api, i'm linking to the multithreaded dlls... is there anything else i should know? i've not got it working yet only because i've not got it finished yet, and parts of this are sortof new territory for me. but i know what i'm doing and i see no reason why it won't be completed in a matter of days (save for debugging, perhaps, and moving to edinburgh on wednesday) i have my class, CSAASound, which is the only class exported in the dll. (the sound support is in the form of a dll, i'm not sure i mentioned that, but it only made sense to do it that way). it creates the background thread itself. is there anything i should know about exporting c++ classes from a dll (it's not something i've ever tried before). i heard something about .def files and using decorated names which are compiler specific, which i didn't feel too happy about (i'm using visual c++ 5 pro edition, and from what i gather, the author of the emulator will have to be using the same compiler or else they won't be able to link to my dll) - or else i could avoid using a .def file and instead use declspec(dllexport), and risk the possibility of sound support not working if (or when) i release an updated version of my sound dll and are there any forseeable problems with me creating a thread from inside a function (in a class in a dll) which is going to be called from another thread? ( i don't think there are, but as i said, this is new territory ). either way, i'll knock up a small test driver using visual basic or something (can't be bothered with mfc right now) . not ever actually written any vb code that accessed vc classes in a seperate .dll ... but it can't be too hard, right? anyone help / know what i'm talking about / care ? CSAASound class header file available on request. -- Dave sound emulation .dll for win32 port of simcoupe will feature (when finished): 11025, 22050, 44100, 8/16bit, mono/stereo support, optional filtering (two-pole butterworth band-pass filter to generate the unmistakeably crappy low-frequency response of a real SAA-1099 - but a bit of a cpu-stealer), pretty much spot-on sound generation including full envelope control (incl. external clocking as well as emulation of the undocumented volume level resolution drop from 4 bits to 3 when using envelopes), noise generation, offset generation when using envelope controls (meaning samples are supported - emulated mod player anyone?) and even glitching when sending octave/tone data in the wrong order. current status: most of the above is in place in an untested-don't-know-if-it-all-works-together sort of way. still to do: tweaking of the filter parameters; completion of the supported modes (only 11025/mono/8,16 in place at the moment). verifiably complete: algorithms have been tested 'off-line' using non-realtime code worst-case scenario: code is too inefficient to fill sample buffers faster than the sound device uses them. probability: low From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 27 06:41:49 1998 Message-ID: <19980927053913.16583.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.76.72.210] From: Simon Cooke To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Using a syquest. Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:39:12 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 275 Lines: 9 >Help's having people on the inside ;) Welllll... actually, you can get them even if you don't work for MS -- it's all downloadable from the MSDN website :) Si ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 27 13:50:28 1998 From: Frode Tenneboe Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 12:12:26 +0100 Message-Id: <9809271112.AA06852@asmal.edh.ericsson.se> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Using a syquest. X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 652 Lines: 18 > >In theory, I'd expect it could be done... at the end of the day it's > >really down > >to understanding how the Zip actually works. But that's the problem. > >Iomega are > >hardly forthcoming with techy details. > > > >Edwin'll be better placed technically for this ;) > > The internal IDE ones will work -- after all, it's all ATAPI. > > In fact, the parallel port Zip drives are ATAPI too. It's just the > parallel port protocol which is the hard part to understand. But still, > I may be able to get the docs for some of that from the Windows NT DDK > when I get out to Seattle (tomorrow! Whoopee!) ..or use the free linux driver. -Frode From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 27 16:44:40 1998 Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:39:05 -0400 From: Gordon Wallis <101762.2062@compuserve.com> Subject: Unforgivable (But Intriguing) Spam To: "INTERNET:sam-users@nvg.unit.no" Message-ID: <199809271139_MC2-5AC7-5EE6@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1315 Lines: 28 ...For two whole reasons: 1. It's not Sam-related 2. It's the most insidious type of advertising there is: "Hey you guys, look what I found!" I visited Live '98 today, and aside from getting leafleted left, right and centre by Sony Babes (and others, but I didn't really notice who they were working for...), I found a new, web-capable 'Commodore 64'! It's called Web.it (yes, that's W-E-B-dot-I-T, possible the cheesiest name the show had to offer), and it's pretty cute. It's not, in fact, a C64, but a custom hybrid set-top-box sortof laptop thing, which plugs into your TV and your phone line. The processor's an AMD, it's got 16Mb of RAM (more of a Commodore16384, then), 16 bit stereo sound, a touchpad for pointer control, and a 56K modem. It runs Windows3.1 under IBM PC-DOS 7. It runs Commie games under an emulator (Aha! That's the connection!) It's Y2K compliant. It's at www.commodore64.com Oi, Bob! How about buying a few thousand, and badging them as SamSon..? On another - though similar - note, did anyone read/hear that Sir Uncle Clive plans to release a new Spectrum-style machine (ie. cheap, easy to use...shite GFX and sound) for the new millennium? Someone, please...tell me it's the Sam! Tell me Clive's bought WCC and plans to revitalise our ailing market... Lie if you have to, damnit! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Sep 27 17:04:03 1998 Message-ID: <360ED128.7E38@persona.clara.net> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:58:32 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Unforgivable (But Intriguing) Spam References: <199809271139_MC2-5AC7-5EE6@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1420 Lines: 47 Gordon Wallis wrote: > It's called Web.it (yes, that's W-E-B-dot-I-T, possible the cheesiest name > the show had to offer), and it's pretty cute. It's not, in fact, a C64, but > a custom hybrid set-top-box sortof laptop thing, which plugs into your TV > and your phone line. The processor's an AMD, it's got 16Mb of RAM (more of > a Commodore16384, then), 16 bit stereo sound, a touchpad for pointer > control, and a 56K modem. Basically it's a 486, with a very natty keyboard... Oh, and telly connection abilities. > It runs Windows3.1 under IBM PC-DOS 7. > It runs Commie games under an emulator (Aha! That's the connection!) Hmmmm.... perhaps someone should suggest they bundle it with Sim Coupe and/or X128? What a good idea ;) How about it Bobby? > It's Y2K compliant. What a surprise ;) > It's at www.commodore64.com > Oi, Bob! How about buying a few thousand, and badging them as SamSon..? Hmmmm ;) SAMSon - not compatible with SAM ;) Still, perhaps it'd be nice to get the casing? It is snazzy. > On another - though similar - note, did anyone read/hear that Sir Uncle > Clive plans to release a new Spectrum-style machine (ie. cheap, easy to > use...shite GFX and sound) for the new millennium? Yess.... sort of ;) > Someone, please...tell > me it's the Sam! Tell me Clive's bought WCC and plans to revitalise our > ailing market... Lie if you have to, damnit! He has. / From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 28 08:42:24 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 8:35:25 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: Who's on? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 102 Lines: 9 > Hey Tim/Dan, > > How about a list member update? ;) Cheeky sod! Maybe sometime this week. Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 28 09:30:43 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <8025668D.002E839E.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:32:11 +0100 Subject: Re: Unforgivable (But Intriguing) Spam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 702 Lines: 17 >On another - though similar - note, did anyone read/hear that Sir Uncle >Clive plans to release a new Spectrum-style machine (ie. cheap, easy to >use...shite GFX and sound) for the new millennium? Someone, please...tell >me it's the Sam! Tell me Clive's bought WCC and plans to revitalise our >ailing market... Lie if you have to, damnit! I've heard it's going to be called the ZX2000. Basically, it's going to be a nice fast portable computer (to fight against other expensive ones), NON-IBM like, NON MS Windows, with his revolutionary battery technology. Justin. PS. Sorry, I can't lie. No it's not the SAM. Although, some may be able to hold of a prototype and make a SAM emulator for it! :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 28 11:13:22 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:58:02 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Sam Users List 28th September 1998 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2745 Lines: 92 > How about a list member update? ;) ---- Sam Users as of 28 September 1998 08:41 65 subscribers Name Email Address Adrian Francis adrian.francis@cableinet.co.uk Allan Skillman allan.skillman@arm.com Andrew Collier asc25@cam.ac.uk Andrew Gale eep2ag@ee.surrey.ac.uk Andy Gale ee31ag@ee.surrey.ac.uk Ben Versteeg ben@charm.il.ft.hse.nl Bill Ritman BillRitman@aol.com Bob Brenchley BrenchleyR@aol.com Chris White whitey@cid.prestel.co.uk Christof Odenthal odenthal@anysim.de Colin MacDonald Gouranga@aol.com Dan Doore dan@armature.com Dave Fulton D.A.Fulton@durham.ac.uk Dave Hooper d.c.hooper@sms.ed.ac.uk David Munden davidm@enterprise.net David Zambonini D.M.Zambonini@cs.cf.ac.uk David Zambonini dzambonini@orctel.co.uk Dean Liversidge dean@error.demon.co.uk Edwin Blink e.p.r.p.blink@pl.hanze.nl Fred Publishing Fredsoft@postmaster.co.uk Frode Tennebo ft@edh.ericsson.se Gary MacKenzie gary@avtech.demon.co.uk Gavin Smith gavin.smith@purple.dircon.co.uk Gordon Wallis 101762.2062@compuserve.com Graham Goring gawpo@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk Ian Collier Ian.Collier@comlab.oxford.ac.uk Ian Dalziel IDalziel@idalziel.demon.co.uk James Curry James@lhutz.demon.co.uk Jarek Adamski perfekt@sys.com.pl Jeff Crawford samcoupe@cadderly.demon.co.uk Johnna Teare j.d.teare@uclan.ac.uk Justin Skists Justin_Skists@case.co.uk Kevin Cooper kev@kc.u-net.com Lee Willis lee@gbdirect.co.uk Luke Ferris lukef@iplbath.com Mal MacKenzie PersonaHQ@postmaster.co.uk Martin/Maria Rookyard rookyard@btinternet.com Matthew Craven mcbi6mc2@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk Neil Maynard mne2@cableol.co.uk Neil Maynard mne2@freenet.co.uk Nev Young nevilley@nfy53.demon.co.uk Paul Walker paul@black-sun.demon.co.uk Persona persona@clara.net Peter Harkess peterharkess@nuearth.demon.co.uk Phil Glover PGLOVER43@aol.com Robert Brady rwb197@ecs.soton.ac.uk Robert Van Der Veeke rjvveeke@caiw.nl Simon Cooke spectecjr@hotmail.com Slawomir Grodkowski slawek@math.uni-goettingen.de Slawomir Grodkowski grodkowski@metronet.de Stacey Witney switney@huggable.demon.co.uk Stefan Drissen Stefan_Drissen@nl.coopers.com Stephen Harding sh5655@bristol.ac.uk Stewart Skardon sskardon@argonet.co.uk Tim Paveley unc@mono.org Tim Wells tim@twellys.demon.co.uk Wayne Coles wayne@rflect.demon.co.uk William McGugan will@digital-animations.com Unknowns matthewh@top2.ficnet.net.tw davgw@clara.co.uk markus@enterprise.net janowska@usctoux1.cto.us.edu.pl s.d.birchall@surveying.salford.a pbarnes99@hotmail.com People who refuse to reveal their identity to the list Samsboss@Postmaster.co.uk ---- You all know the drill, if you spot errors or unforgivable spellings then let me know. Dan. Work: dan@armature.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 28 18:40:17 1998 Message-ID: <3610391B.55CF@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:34:19 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Users List 28th September 1998 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 342 Lines: 20 Dan Doore wrote: > Persona persona@clara.net Err.... it's David L actually (also as URL David@persona.clara.net ) > Wayne Coles wayne@rflect.demon.co.uk Hi Wayne... finished Kaboom yet? ;) > Unknowns > > matthewh@top2.ficnet.net.tw Matthew? Taiwan? I wonder...? Can't be? Can it? > davgw@clara.co.uk Hmmmm... Another Clarannetter ;) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 28 21:34:50 1998 Message-ID: <360FF14B.EDFEF31F@purple.dircon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:27:56 +0100 From: Gavin Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Users List 28th September 1998 References: <3610391B.55CF@persona.clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 246 Lines: 10 David wrote: > > Wayne Coles wayne@rflect.demon.co.uk > > Hi Wayne... finished Kaboom yet? ;) Blimey! That reminds me! Bob, I suppose that cheque for the refund of my SAM-Clock order (which must be years old by now!) is in the post? :) Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 28 21:47:14 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: <890ebd2b.360ff4eb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:43:23 EDT To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Simple question regarding printer cable - Successful outcome Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id VAA05455 Status: RO Content-Length: 491 Lines: 10 I'm pleased to say I managed to track down a supplier of SAM printer cables for a paltry £4, including post and packing. The cable arrived today in it's original packaging and tied up, as it's in mint condition. A quoted price of £7.95 doesn't sound so good after all.... Unfortunately, my 'source' doesn't have a big supply of cables, so doesn't want any advertising on these pages. (Shame!) Thanks everyone for the help and advice. - Phil Glover, (now with 2 SAMs connected to printers) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 28 22:05:34 1998 From: paul@black-sun.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <199809271615.QAA03653@black-sun.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Using a syquest. To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:15:21 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <9809271112.AA06852@asmal.edh.ericsson.se> from "Frode Tenneboe" at Sep 27, 98 12:12:26 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 510 Lines: 14 > > In fact, the parallel port Zip drives are ATAPI too. It's just the > > parallel port protocol which is the hard part to understand. But still, > > I may be able to get the docs for some of that from the Windows NT DDK > > when I get out to Seattle (tomorrow! Whoopee!) > ..or use the free linux driver. Ah, well, that's too easy. ;) Okay, I admit it, this is more of a test message than anything else, since it's written using elm/linux, and posted via sendmail. If it works, I'll be .. happy. Paul From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 28 22:05:35 1998 Message-ID: <361067E1.2C03@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:53:53 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Users List 28th September 1998 References: <3610391B.55CF@persona.clara.net> <360FF14B.EDFEF31F@purple.dircon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id WAA05728 Status: RO Content-Length: 763 Lines: 28 Gavin Smith wrote: > > David wrote: > > > > Wayne Coles wayne@rflect.demon.co.uk > > > > Hi Wayne... finished Kaboom yet? ;) > > Blimey! That reminds me! Bob, I suppose that cheque for the refund of my > SAM-Clock order (which must be years old by now!) is in the post? :) > > Gavin Hmmmm... Perhaps it's time to send it a Birthday card? BTW How long did your clock take to arrive Dan? ;) David PS: When u get a refund... perhaps you could get one from Uncle Mack? ;) -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Persona Marketing & Development, SAM CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http://www.persona.clara.net | +--------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Sep 28 22:17:01 1998 Message-ID: <36106BB4.1342@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:10:12 -0700 From: David Organization: The foundation of green eggs and ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Simple question regarding printer cable - Successful outcome References: <890ebd2b.360ff4eb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id WAA05914 Status: RO Content-Length: 595 Lines: 15 PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: > > I'm pleased to say I managed to track down a supplier of SAM printer cables > for a paltry £4, including post and packing. The cable arrived today in it's > original packaging and tied up, as it's in mint condition. A quoted price of > £7.95 doesn't sound so good after all.... > > Unfortunately, my 'source' doesn't have a big supply of cables, so doesn't > want any advertising on these pages. (Shame!) Thanks everyone for the help and > advice. > > - Phil Glover, (now with 2 SAMs connected to printers) Well Phil, you know how friendly some of us can be ;) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 09:01:03 1998 From: samsgod@davgw.clara.co.uk (Helmut) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Users List 28th September 1998 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:03:24 GMT Organization: the funny farm Message-ID: <36123181.5030627@mail.clara.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 106 Lines: 6 >> davgw@clara.co.uk > >Hmmmm... Another Clarannetter ;) Yep. Can't imagine who it might be though? :-) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 09:01:14 1998 Message-ID: <19980929020753.27838.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.76] From: Simon Cooke To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Unforgivable (But Intriguing) Spam Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:07:53 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 786 Lines: 23 >I've heard it's going to be called the ZX2000. >Basically, it's going to be a nice fast portable computer (to fight against >other expensive ones), NON-IBM like, NON MS Windows, with his revolutionary >battery technology. Oh Goody (says Simon, typing from within the Microsoft library). ;) Actually, I'm kind of worried about the UltraRisc chip he's come up with -- after all, how RISC is RISC? I mean, subtract and branch on result is as RISC as you can get, (well, add a store command to move data to/from memory and you're set). Oh, and it has an 8-bit wide bus. Hope he's come up with some way of putting the memory and the CPU on the same ASIC die. ;) Simon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 09:08:01 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 8:56:05 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: Sam Users List 28th September 1998 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 225 Lines: 10 > Hmmmm... Perhaps it's time to send it a Birthday card? > > BTW How long did your clock take to arrive Dan? ;) Oooh, about 24 hours :-) That doesn't mean I've gotten around to actually *soldering* it in yet ;-) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 09:08:03 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 8:59:10 +0000 To: perfekt@sys.com.pl, jarek@zsk-sp7.p.lodz.pl Cc: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 576 Lines: 23 These need to be posted to sam-users-owner@nvg.ntnu.no, matey. Dan. > -----Original Message----- > From: jarek@zsk-sp7.p.lodz.pl > Sent: 29 September 1998 00:35 > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Subject: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > subscribe jarek@zsk-sp7.p.lodz.pl > -----Original Message----- > From: perfekt@sys.com.pl > Sent: 29 September 1998 00:35 > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Subject: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > unsubscribe From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 10:43:57 1998 Subject: Re: Unforgivable (But Intriguing) Spam To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:14:53 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <19980929020753.27838.qmail@hotmail.com> from "Simon Cooke" at Sep 28, 98 07:07:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Andrew Gale X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1134 Lines: 28 > Actually, I'm kind of worried about the UltraRisc chip he's come up with > -- after all, how RISC is RISC? I mean, subtract and branch on result is > as RISC as you can get, (well, add a store command to move data to/from > memory and you're set). > Hmmm... Chuck Moore (inventor of FORTH) has come up with a number of chips which have about 20 or so instructions, and he calls them MISC (Minimal ISC) chips. His first had a full cpu and a video generator in a 40-pin package, with just 7,000 transistors! I think it ran at 100 MIPS. A newer version, the i21 is used in an iTV web browser - so it must be quite powerful. > Oh, and it has an 8-bit wide bus. Hope he's come up with some way of > putting the memory and the CPU on the same ASIC die. > But if the instructions are 4bits wide, then that's two instructions per fetch. And with a decent on-chip cache, it may not be a problem. I guess fewer bits means fewer pins, simpler pcb, and less power requirements. I have to say, the idea of an 8-bit bus doesn't worry me ---- I think it's quite exciting! Can you imagine an 8-bitter that competes with a Pentium?!! Andy From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 11:02:02 1998 Subject: Re: Unforgivable (But Intriguing) Spam To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:47:25 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <19980929020753.27838.qmail@hotmail.com> from "Simon Cooke" at Sep 28, 98 07:07:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Andrew Gale X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 839 Lines: 17 > Actually, I'm kind of worried about the UltraRisc chip he's come up with > -- after all, how RISC is RISC? I mean, subtract and branch on result is > as RISC as you can get, (well, add a store command to move data to/from > memory and you're set). > RISC isn't about having as few instructions as possible - it's about having no more than will give optimum performance. Adding instructions usually slows down the processor, so it's a case of weighing up the increase in performance given by that particular instruction, against the overall reduction in speed caused to all the other instructions by the addition of that new instruction. In fact, I'd stick my neck out and say that if it has a nice regular instruction format, and it can be decoded quickly, and it easily pipelines, then you can add it to the instruction set. Andy From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 11:02:04 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <8025668E.00367B57.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:55:18 +0100 Subject: Re: Unforgivable (But Intriguing) Spam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 197 Lines: 8 >I have to say, the idea of an 8-bit bus doesn't worry me ---- I think >it's quite exciting! Can you imagine an 8-bitter that competes with a >Pentium?!! It'll be on my shopping list! :) Justin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 11:22:52 1998 Message-Id: From: Dan Doore Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:14:07 +0000 To: jarek@zsk-sp7.p.lodz.pl, sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 425 Lines: 13 > On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 8:59:10 +0000, Dan Doore said: > > These need to be posted to sam-users-owner@nvg.ntnu.no, matey. > > No they don't, they need to be sent to sam-users-request@nvg.ntnu.no. BASTARDBASTARDBUGGERANDHELLFIRE! I *knew* it didn't look right after I'd sent it. I always send to majordomo@nvg.ntnu.no and use subscribe sam-users cos it's the only way I can remember, as has just become apparent. Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 20:03:37 1998 Message-ID: <8uvLKHAMLSE2IwcS@windchime.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:11:24 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Dave Subject: sam sound emulation library for win32 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 403 Lines: 10 sound emulation works good. well, that is to say, it works now, and it hasn't been put through all of its paces yet, but it works. and it doesn't hog the cpu either - fills buffers *much* faster than it can play them. just got to fix that a little bit though (should really be filling buffers at exactly the same speed as it can play them...) just letting people know how things are going... -- Dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 20:03:38 1998 Message-ID: <1O1JiBAmDSE2IwfE@windchime.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:03:18 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Dave Subject: sam-dsk MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 336 Lines: 10 i ftp'd my sam-floppy-disk-to-.dsk-file convertor-program-that-works (:) to nvg.unit.no i think i stuck it in sam-coupe/incoming, but i can't really remember. don't know who runs the place (sorry) but whoever it is, could it please be put somewhere sensible. it's a pc utility, but it's for the sam, if you see what i mean. -- Dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Sep 29 23:24:57 1998 From: Paul Walker Organization: very little To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:17:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Message-ID: In-reply-to: <199809290943.KAA06022@ruby.comlab> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) X-Hops: 1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 318 Lines: 10 > No they don't, they need to be sent to sam-users-request@nvg.ntnu.no. Something wrong with majordomo@nvg.ntnu.no all of a sudden? Paul -- ---- MicroSoft Windows - where do you want to crash today? ---- FidoNet: 2:254/211.44 2:442/103.13 ---> http://www.craybbs.co.uk/foti <--- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 30 02:37:33 1998 Message-ID: <4t3jYIALhYE2Iw8u@windchime.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:24:27 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Dave Subject: Re: z80 snaps In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 826 Lines: 21 >I would like to be able to put .dsk files back on to floppy but i keep getting >write error messages,can you help?I have samdisk and samtoms but i'll be >f*#@$d if i can get them to write a full disk. > >cheers > Peter Harkess uhh.. did i send you a copy of my program? can't remember if i did, that's ok, did it work? if not, it'll be available for download from ftp.nvg.unit.no shortly, probably. the thing to remember, though, is that you'll only be able to send .dsk files to a floppy disk if that disk has been formatted for double sided, 80 tracks per side, 10 sectors per track. (most pc-compatible floppy disks are only 9 sectors per track, and so, if you tried to write a full .dsk file to an ibm-pc formatted floppy disk, you'd get errors when writing sector 10 (and every 10 sectors after that) ) -- dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 30 06:42:35 1998 From: Frode Tenneboe Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:34:40 +0100 Message-Id: <9809300534.AA11235@asmal.edh.ericsson.se> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: sam-dsk X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 434 Lines: 14 > i ftp'd my sam-floppy-disk-to-.dsk-file convertor-program-that-works (:) > to nvg.unit.no > i think i stuck it in sam-coupe/incoming, but i can't really remember. I move everything I don't know what is into ./temp. > > don't know who runs the place (sorry) but whoever it is, could it please > be put somewhere sensible. it's a pc utility, but it's for the sam, if > you see what i mean. It's now moved to ./misc/pc. -Frode From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Sep 30 22:16:58 1998 by mail.clara.net with SMTP; 30 Sep 1998 21:04:51 -0000 From: samsgod@davgw.clara.co.uk (Him) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: z80 snaps Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:02:54 GMT Message-ID: <36169a15.4617090@mail.clara.net> References: <4t3jYIALhYE2Iw8u@windchime.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4t3jYIALhYE2Iw8u@windchime.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 628 Lines: 13 On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:24:27 +0100 Wed, 30 Sep 98 18:06:43 BST, Dave wrote: >the thing to remember, though, is that you'll only be able to send .dsk >files to a floppy disk if that disk has been formatted for double sided, >80 tracks per side, 10 sectors per track. (most pc-compatible floppy >disks are only 9 sectors per track, and so, if you tried to write a full >.dsk file to an ibm-pc formatted floppy disk, you'd get errors when >writing sector 10 (and every 10 sectors after that) ) It'd be really handy to have a good SAM disk formatting prog for the PC. Does anyone know any good uns? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 1 13:29:17 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: muon.mono.org: unc owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:45:30 +0100 (BST) From: Tim To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Broken URL's In-Reply-To: <25DDAB93BC3@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 641 Lines: 20 On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, The Mad Goose wrote: > I might have a bash at it sometime this week - there's a very basic > copy (Graham's original, I think) up on my site atm, but it's years > old. There is still a copy at http://www.mono.org/~unc/Coupe/FAQ.txt it's just not linked in. (Left it there as ians postings to ccs mention it) It's the last one I got when graham was "in touch". It might be slightly newer than the copy you have, dunno though. Tim .............................................................................@/ Unc - Tim Paveley - Moderator of "The Games Room" & "Ascii Animations" http://www.mono.org/~unc/