From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 1 10:17:41 1997 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 9:10:00 +0100 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: New version of SimCoupe for DOS Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.20B.16 MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 234 Lines: 16 > Why do I get the message: > ----------------------------- > Error 403 > > Forbidden - bad user directory > > CERN-HTTPD 3.0A > >when I try this url? Try this one: http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe/simcoupe_dos.html Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 1 19:10:18 1997 Message-ID: <33B99DFF.7F4A@enterprise.net> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 17:17:03 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: New version of SimCoupe for DOS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 364 Lines: 22 Dan Doore wrote: > > > Why do I get the message: > > ----------------------------- > > Error 403 > > > > Forbidden - bad user directory > > > > CERN-HTTPD 3.0A > > > >when I try this url? > > Try this one: > > http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe/simcoupe_dos.html > > Dan. Thanks a million Dan - got it first time. Looks good at first glance. Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 2 11:10:49 1997 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:59:37 -0400 (EDT) From: unc To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Urk! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 473 Lines: 18 Hi all, minor disaster on the email front, dplinux got hacked, was down for about a week or two, and since I've been doing an external summer project, I've not really been about to do much. one upshot is that I seem to have a big blank in my email from 24th June -> 29th June. it may be that no-one actually said anything for a few days, but that's unlikely ;), could some kind soul find the time to send me what I've missed purlease. Thanks muchly Tim....@/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 2 11:10:49 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.enterprise.net: [194.72.196.229] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <33BA80D2.222B@enterprise.net> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 09:24:50 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: No Post? References: <33B99DFF.7F4A@enterprise.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 179 Lines: 9 Take a day oft work to catch up on a bit of coumputing and what do I find - no post. I know that babies are off school (sorry Uni) but is everyoneelse on holidays> Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 2 13:23:25 1997 Subject: Re: No Post? To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:20:01 +0100 (BST) Cc: Simon.Cooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Cooke) In-Reply-To: <33BA80D2.222B@enterprise.net> from "SamsBoss - The One And Only" at Jul 2, 97 09:24:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19970702122019Z49160-13708+6950@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 279 Lines: 11 > Take a day oft work to catch up on a bit of coumputing and what do I > find - no post. > > I know that babies are off school (sorry Uni) but is everyoneelse on > holidays> Nope... I'm here (at least I think I am) I'm being quiet though -- too much programming to do. Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 2 13:47:43 1997 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:41:02 EDT From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: No Post? Message-Id: <19970702124120Z49160-13708+6959@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 331 Lines: 16 Date: 1997-07-02 11:33 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: No Post? >Take a day oft work to catch up on a bit of coumputing and what do I >find - no post. > >I know that babies are off school (sorry Uni) but is everyoneelse on >holidays> no too busy working. hth. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 2 13:47:43 1997 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:41:04 EDT From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Urk] Message-Id: <19970702124121Z49166-13708+6960@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 810 Lines: 30 Date: 1997-07-02 11:35 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSG:FROM: I7207445--IBMMAIL TO: NYOUNG1 --RLLAN1 02/07/97 11:01:37 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:59:37 -0400 (EDT) From: To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Urk] > >Hi all, > > minor disaster on the email front, dplinux got hacked, was down >for about a week or two, and since I've been doing an external summer >project, I've not really been about to do much. > >24th June -> 29th June. > > it may be that no-one actually said anything for a few days, but >that's unlikely ;), could some kind soul find the time to send me what >I've missed purlease. > > Thanks muchly I can do that. Will do tonight unless you've posted that you've already got em. Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 2 16:07:38 1997 Message-Id: <199707021445.QAA11909@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: No Post? Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:45:47 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 503 Lines: 19 > Van: SamsBoss - The One And Only > Aan: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Onderwerp: No Post? > Datum: Wednesday, July 02, 1997 6:24 > > Take a day oft work to catch up on a bit of coumputing and what do I > find - no post. > > I know that babies are off school (sorry Uni) but is everyoneelse on > holidays> > > > Samsboss. > How about working :| Holidays, not for long time for me :( Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] 14 BREAK, CONTINUE to repeat 10:1 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 2 17:25:56 1997 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:00:00 +0100 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no}) Subject: RE: No Post? Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.20B.16 MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 469 Lines: 20 > Take a day oft work to catch up on a bit of coumputing and what do I > find - no post. > > I know that babies are off school (sorry Uni) but is everyoneelse on > holidays > Yeah, I'm still about, but being worked too hard. I haven't had a tinker with my sam for months, speaking of which I haven't had a Fred for months either - I must look into this. BTW, Website with Coupe bits: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ Come and boost my access counter :) :) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 2 21:22:54 1997 Message-ID: <33BB19E7.5192@enterprise.net> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 20:17:59 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: No Post? References: <19970702124120Z49160-13708+6959@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 585 Lines: 26 YOUNG, Neville / IT Life wrote: > > Date: 1997-07-02 11:33 > Priority: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: No Post? > > >Take a day oft work to catch up on a bit of coumputing and what do I > >find - no post. > > > >I know that babies are off school (sorry Uni) but is everyoneelse on > >holidays> > > no too busy working. > > hth. Ho, Ho, Ho.... That was the best one I've heard in a very long time. You should be on the telly Nev. Samsboss. (now expecting a retort that the telly is too small for nev to sit on.) From imc Thu Jul 3 17:07:22 1997 Subject: Re: Back to the SAM - for a change :) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:07:22 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <199706252202.XAA15109@mail.enterprise.net> from "Dave Whitmore" at Jun 25, 97 10:54:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 924 Lines: 22 On 25 Jun 1997 22:54:11, Dave Whitmore said: > Yes. I bet we could make a great thick tome of information gathered fro= > m the > users to add to the manual, but I still think it'd be a hard thing to s= > ell. > 3, Who'll publish it (Format/West-Coast /Revelation/Fred?) > 4, Why? - the user base for our 8-bit 'blue footed friend' is shrinkin= > g so > fast that it just wouldn't be viable - unless the publishers felt espec= > ially > philanthropic and literally gave it away. Well someone could take it to a printing shop and make, say, 50 copies (this will probably cost somewhere between 2.5 and 3 pence per page - you can half that if you print it in A5 format). Then some dedicated person or persons could bind them themselves with a bit of strong thread and Copydex :-) and sell them to the people on this list and others who turn up at the show or whatever. The overheads for this will be pretty small. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 3 17:19:28 1997 Subject: Re: Back to the SAM - for a change :) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:15:44 +0100 (BST) Cc: Simon.Cooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Cooke) In-Reply-To: <9707031607.AA26350@gruffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> from "Ian Collier" at Jul 3, 97 05:07:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19970703161559Z49175-13708+8022@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1412 Lines: 37 > > On 25 Jun 1997 22:54:11, Dave Whitmore said: > > Yes. I bet we could make a great thick tome of information gathered fro= > > m the > > users to add to the manual, but I still think it'd be a hard thing to s= > > ell. > > > 3, Who'll publish it (Format/West-Coast /Revelation/Fred?) > > > 4, Why? - the user base for our 8-bit 'blue footed friend' is shrinkin= > > g so > > fast that it just wouldn't be viable - unless the publishers felt espec= > > ially > > philanthropic and literally gave it away. > > Well someone could take it to a printing shop and make, say, 50 copies (this > will probably cost somewhere between 2.5 and 3 pence per page - you can half Or alternatively, you could take it to Manchester Uni Reprographics and get them to do perfect-bound copies (or ring-bound copies, or folder bound... you choose) for approximately... oooh... 9 quid for a 300 page booklet :) Acutally, it will probably be more likely nearer to 15, 20 quid, but I think 9 quid could be a good estimate. Simon ps. No minimum run cost either... you can have just one printed up if you want to... pps. That's double-sided costs, not single-sided. Single-sided would cost double. ppps. Acutyaslly, tell a lie - that *is* single-sided cost. Me and my memory eh? pppps. 600 dpi Xerox Laser printer - Docutech 135 jobbie. Big as a room. ppppps. Bad lag to my email account today - please excuse typos./ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 3 19:21:20 1997 Message-ID: <33BC4DA5.781A@enterprise.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 18:11:01 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Back to the SAM - for a change :) References: <9707031607.AA26350@gruffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 842 Lines: 24 Ian Collier wrote: > [snip] > Well someone could take it to a printing shop and make, say, 50 copies (this > will probably cost somewhere between 2.5 and 3 pence per page - you can half > that if you print it in A5 format). Then some dedicated person or persons > could bind them themselves with a bit of strong thread and Copydex :-) and > sell them to the people on this list and others who turn up at the show or > whatever. The overheads for this will be pretty small. > > imc Ok, best to work on 5p per single sided A4 page, about 8p per double sided - there are the rates that most of the print shops seem to use for runs of 25-100 off. In most cases this will include collating as this will be done on the machine for small runs. Binding and finishing? Well there are so many different ways it is impossible to say. HTH. Bob. From imc Fri Jul 4 19:58:44 1997 Subject: Re: Back to the SAM - for a change :) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:58:44 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <33BC4DA5.781A@enterprise.net> from "SamsBoss - The One And Only" at Jul 3, 97 06:11:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 612 Lines: 16 On Thu, 03 Jul 1997 18:11:01 -0700, SamsBoss - The One And Only said: > Ok, best to work on 5p per single sided A4 page, about 8p per double > sided - there are the rates that most of the print shops seem to use for > runs of 25-100 off. In most cases this will include collating as this > will be done on the machine for small runs. Last summer I got 50 copies of a 32-page document for 2p per side plus VAT. The nearest copy shop in Oxford wanted about 4.2p per side, but they used the total number of sides for their calculation (i.e., 50 copies of a 64-page document would be cheaper). > Bob. Huh? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jul 5 12:16:38 1997 Message-ID: <33BE8BC1.45CF@enterprise.net> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 11:00:33 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Back to the SAM - for a change :) References: <9707041858.AA06654@gruffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 936 Lines: 29 Ian Collier wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Jul 1997 18:11:01 -0700, SamsBoss - The One And Only said: > > Ok, best to work on 5p per single sided A4 page, about 8p per double > > sided - there are the rates that most of the print shops seem to use for > > runs of 25-100 off. In most cases this will include collating as this > > will be done on the machine for small runs. > > Last summer I got 50 copies of a 32-page document for 2p per side plus > VAT. The nearest copy shop in Oxford wanted about 4.2p per side, but > they used the total number of sides for their calculation (i.e., 50 > copies of a 64-page document would be cheaper). That was cheaper than I can get it done in Liverpool (but then the girls are nicer up here so I can't complain) > > > Bob. > > Huh? Just testing to see if people are still awake out there - me was begining to doubt it :) Samsboss. ps. if you's don't believe it about the girls - ask Nev. From imc Mon Jul 7 10:09:29 1997 Subject: Re: Back to the SAM - for a change :) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:09:29 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <33BE8BC1.45CF@enterprise.net> from "SamsBoss - The One And Only" at Jul 5, 97 11:00:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 674 Lines: 18 On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 11:00:33 -0700, SamsBoss - The One And Only said: > Ian Collier wrote: > > Last summer I got 50 copies of a 32-page document for 2p per side plus > > VAT. I tell a lie... since it was an A5 booklet this means only 16 sides copied on to 8 double-sided sheets. This was in Bolton, btw. > > The nearest copy shop in Oxford wanted about 4.2p per side, but > > they used the total number of sides for their calculation (i.e., 50 > > copies of a 64-page document would be cheaper). > That was cheaper than I can get it done in Liverpool (but then the girls > are nicer up here so I can't complain) How do you know how nice they are down here? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jul 7 18:46:26 1997 X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L NL @ C&L INT @ C&L INT EXTERNAL @ WORLDCOM @INTERLIANT @ WORLDCOM @ OUTBOUND From: Stefan Drissen To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Message-ID: <862564CD.00605D1A.00@internet-502.interliant.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:19:33 +0100 Subject: Houten SGG gathering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 3014 Lines: 68 Hi all! Just a little message being typed in LIVE from the Sinclair User group in Houten, the Netherlands (or as some people prefer to call it: Canada). Well not entirely live since I'm not actually connected to the net yet - but will mail this out tonight or so. The attendance is incredible. Let me see, I can count all the people present on ONE HAND! There's Robert van der Veeke with his SAM, Martijn Groen with his SAM, Johan Koelen (author of the Spectrum ZX-81 emulator) with his speccy or something and the "organizer" plus of course me with my SAM. Martijn is showing us how amazingly his SAM ZX-81 emulator is working - it has definitely progressed from the stage my one on the NVG site was at - it will load TAP files and stuff so JK Greye's amazing 3D monster maze is running in it's full monochrome, silent, 48 by 64 resolution glory. Ahem. Retro-computing anyone? And to think I thought actually still using my SAM Coupe was pretty much retro-computing (albeit FUN). But to go back and do the ZX-81???? We've just had a little discussion about who is who on the list and come to the conclusion that Bill Ritman is Bob Brenchley is Sam Boss is Nev Young (pretty odd since two of those four people actually exist). Multi-personality syndrome anyone? That was just a quick jab at the amount of bull-shit polluting the sam-mailing list - are we all doing so little with our SAMs that we have to resort to these discussions (pardon my use of the word). Right, so who's going to write the Sushimo emulator? Sushimo being that electronic creature that you have to take care of by feeding it, playing with it, cleaning up it's mess etc. Considering the graphics of the orignal - even a ZX81 could do it - it shouldn't be too much of a challenge on the SAM... Any news on Colony? How about some screens to whet the old appetite (I don't want to risk buying a piece of crap like X-Sights 3 was - whatever you do, DO NOT buy this - although the adverts boast Quazar support it has none and is just a rather crap SCADS game). Let me see now, how do I assemble code with Comet.... -- **************************************** This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. Accordingly, Coopers & Lybrand disclaim all responsibility and accept no liability (including in negligence) for the consequences for any person acting, or refraining from acting, on such information prior to the receipt by those persons of subsequent written confirmation. If you have received this E-mail message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone. Please also destroy and delete the message from your computer. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. **************************************** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jul 7 21:03:03 1997 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:46:21 -0400 (EDT) From: BillRitman@aol.com Message-ID: <970707154618_491027352@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Houten SGG gathering Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 588 Lines: 14 In a message dated 07/07/97 18:00:03, you write: >We've just had a little discussion about who is who on the list and come to >the conclusion that Bill Ritman is Bob Brenchley is Sam Boss is Nev Young >(pretty odd since two of those four people actually exist). >Multi-personality syndrome anyone? That was just a quick jab at the amount >of bull-shit polluting the sam-mailing list - are we all doing so little >with our SAMs that we have to resort to these discussions (pardon my use of >the word). Excuse me!!! Are you taking the urine? Bill. (Not Bob, just Bill, all on his own) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jul 7 22:50:51 1997 Message-Id: <199707072139.OAA11337@f38.hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.118.66] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Houten SGG gathering Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 14:39:04 PDT Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1746 Lines: 42 > a piece of crap like X-Sights 3 was - whatever > you do, DO NOT buy this - although the adverts boast Quazar > support it has none and is just a rather crap SCADS game). I was tipped off last September that there was an advert for X-Sights 3 which mentioned sound for the Quazar Surround, and it even said I had done it! On enquiring with Darren Wileman of Saturn Software (who publish X-sights 3) he didn't know adverts had been sent out and he knew little of what was happening with the game - or even if it was finished. I was assured by Darren that any mentions of myself and that would be removed from the packaging. The adverts were sent out by the author - Doug Young - before the game was even ready.... Having phoned him that night he could come up with no reason for why it was all mentioned in the advert and I was told the advert would be changed and correct information would be sent out.... Having seen the same advert recently I am again looking into this.... Colin Piggot. +------------------------+-------------------------------+------------------+ | Colin Piggot | __ ___ __ | QUAZAR SURROUND | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | Soundcard | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | = 16 bit sound on| | Email your postal | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | Sam + surround | | address for 14+ page | | sound! 'Hearing | | booklet about products | HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR SAM | is believing' | +------------------------+-------------------------------+------------------+ _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 8 15:59:42 1997 Message-ID: <33C26C57.5553@enterprise.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 09:35:35 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Houten SGG gathering References: <862564CD.00605D1A.00@internet-502.interliant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2720 Lines: 69 Stefan Drissen wrote: > > Hi all! > > Just a little message being typed in LIVE from the Sinclair User group in > Houten, the Netherlands (or as some people prefer to call it: Canada). Am I missing the yoke? > Well not entirely live since I'm not actually connected to the net yet - > but will mail this out tonight or so. > > The attendance is incredible. Let me see, I can count all the people > present on ONE HAND! There's Robert van der Veeke with his SAM, Martijn > Groen with his SAM, Johan Koelen (author of the Spectrum ZX-81 emulator) > with his speccy or something and the "organizer" plus of course me with my > SAM. An the IRA didnee try to stop the gathering like they did the last Gloucester one? Pheew! you were lucky :) > > Martijn is showing us how amazingly his SAM ZX-81 emulator is working - it > has definitely progressed from the stage my one on the NVG site was at - it > will load TAP files and stuff so JK Greye's amazing 3D monster maze is > running in it's full monochrome, silent, 48 by 64 resolution glory. Ahem. Cor: a real trip down memory lane. I was still in junior school when that came out. > Retro-computing anyone? And to think I thought actually still using my SAM > Coupe was pretty much retro-computing (albeit FUN). But to go back and do > the ZX-81???? > > We've just had a little discussion about who is who on the list and come to > the conclusion that Bill Ritman is Bob Brenchley is Sam Boss is Nev Young > (pretty odd since two of those four people actually exist). Hehehehe!!!! are you trying to say that Bob and Nev don't exist anymore? > Multi-personality syndrome anyone? That was just a quick jab at the amount > of bull-shit polluting the sam-mailing list - are we all doing so little > with our SAMs that we have to resort to these discussions (pardon my use of > the word). > > Right, so who's going to write the Sushimo emulator? Sushimo being that > electronic creature that you have to take care of by feeding it, playing > with it, cleaning up it's mess etc. Considering the graphics of the > orignal - even a ZX81 could do it - it shouldn't be too much of a challenge > on the SAM... If only I had the time :( > > Any news on Colony? How about some screens to whet the old appetite (I > don't want to risk buying a piece of crap like X-Sights 3 was - whatever > you do, DO NOT buy this - although the adverts boast Quazar support it has > none and is just a rather crap SCADS game). > > Let me see now, how do I assemble code with Comet.... Well, you write the code first, then you assemble it, then you sell the proggy to all the wonderful sam users who are so keen to have new software. Samsboss (Who thinks, therefore he is) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 8 21:12:24 1997 Subject: BOAI Issue 3 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:51:25 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19970708185147Z49267-13708+11340@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 495 Lines: 15 Hi everyone, We're expecting to have issue 3 of BOAI at the printers on Monday next week. I'd personally like to apologise for the delays experienced with this issue -- though I have a good excuse. Mind you, that doesn't mean that I'm going to use it, as I shouldn't have had any excuse in the first place. All in all, I'm glad this one's nearly ready - next issue should go a lot smoother (even though it'll be half produced in the UK, and half produced in the US). Bye for now, Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 8 21:12:24 1997 Subject: BTW... To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:51:52 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19970708185203Z49270-13708+11341@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 74 Lines: 3 Any jokes about flying pigs will be treated with utter contempt ;) Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 12:11:54 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970616151953_57657224@emout02.mail.aol.com> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:25:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: BillRitman@aol.com's message of "Mon, 16 Jun 1997 15:20:32 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 836 Lines: 19 BillRitman@aol.com writes: > >Do you see why so many people criticise AOL for not actually telling its > >subscribers what the net is and what it is for? > > And other ISPs do? Looks to me as if you are just finding fault again. > Yep, I presume most other (Major public use, ie not set up with the prime intention of spamming ...) ISP's do since you don't tend to get problems with them. AOL should give out a netiquette guide to all new users and not rely on the users finding it out for themselves. That would eliminate some of the irresponsible uses like this ... -- 'Nerds remind me of musicians ... in my experience, both nerds and musicians are ardent, passionate and such good fun in the sack that if the government knew about it they'd lock them up' - M.Bywater *Lee Willis - Musician and Software Engineering Student.* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 13:11:14 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <4857.199706181911@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> <33A8B3F3.44F3@enterprise.net> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:34:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: SamsBoss - The One And Only's message of "Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:22:11 -0700" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 714 Lines: 17 SamsBoss - The One And Only writes: > Question? What is the problem??? All the newsgroups I have ever read > have been FULL of adverts {even when their charter has excluded it}. Murder happens every day does this mean we should ignore it? No we keep trying to stop it before it happens or at least punish people when they do it ... Why should Usenet be any different. Just 'coz something happens doesn't make it right! -- 'Nerds remind me of musicians ... in my experience, both nerds and musicians are ardent, passionate and such good fun in the sack that if the government knew about it they'd lock them up' - M.Bywater *Lee Willis - Musician and Software Engineering Student.* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 13:50:19 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970620130512_322415758@emout11.mail.aol.com> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:55:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: BillRitman@aol.com's message of "Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:06:35 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 396 Lines: 12 BillRitman@aol.com writes: > Bill. > (fed up with something that is not SAM) Hey, if you don't like it you don't have to read it. -- 'Nerds remind me of musicians ... in my experience, both nerds and musicians are ardent, passionate and such good fun in the sack that if the government knew about it they'd lock them up' - M.Bywater *Lee Willis - Musician and Software Engineering Student.* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 13:50:19 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Apologies X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 09 Jul 1997 12:02:26 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 406 Lines: 8 Muchos apologies for continueing _that_ thread here but I've been away for three weeks and didn't get to the 'Let's take this outside bit ...' -- 'Nerds remind me of musicians ... in my experience, both nerds and musicians are ardent, passionate and such good fun in the sack that if the government knew about it they'd lock them up' - M.Bywater *Lee Willis - Musician and Software Engineering Student.* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 13:50:21 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970618170958_-1731195107@emout18.mail.aol.com> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:47:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: BillRitman@aol.com's message of "Wed, 18 Jun 1997 17:09:59 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 719 Lines: 17 BillRitman@aol.com writes: > You do come across as an arrogant little runt you know. > Having read what you have said as well as what Bob has said I think you are > deliberatly setting out to cause trouble === again. It doesn't strike you as odd that around 10 people think Bob's wrong and only three think he's right. On those odds around 77% of people are pissed off with his behaviour. I'd say that that means he's wrong ... What d'you reckon Bill ? -- 'Nerds remind me of musicians ... in my experience, both nerds and musicians are ardent, passionate and such good fun in the sack that if the government knew about it they'd lock them up' - M.Bywater *Lee Willis - Musician and Software Engineering Student.* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 14:54:08 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970618094211_24296837@emout16.mail.aol.com> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:43:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: BrenchleyR@aol.com's message of "Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:42:12 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1703 Lines: 42 BrenchleyR@aol.com writes: > >JUst because it's free for you, what does it cost in terms of disk space > >on other peoples machines, network bandwidth, cost of downloads? > > So small an amount that I doubt it would be possible to cost it. Yep but if you're reading several newsgroups, each with several bits of 'advertising' in then the costs adds up pretty quickly .. > May I ask the question "How do you expect people to know about things if they > are not informed about them?" If people need to know about something then they go and find out information about it. If I wanted to know about the bolivian tree spider then I'd go and search for it, I don't expect to be happily reading a newsgroup and get a post something along the lines of Check out my cool bolivian tree spider homepage ... blah de blah blah blah blah. It's irrelevant. If I want information I go look for it. Spamming does not make my life easier .... > I hope this helps you understand the situation. All we are trying to do is > use a valid media to distribute information in a way that is sympathetic to > the users of that media. Yet you have at least 10 'users of that media' here that are telling you that you are not being nice to us and that you're wrong and you _still_ ignore us ... > Now I don't want to fall out with people, especially you Simon. I therefore > think this should be an end to the thread. Is that an admission of defeat bob ... -- 'Nerds remind me of musicians ... in my experience, both nerds and musicians are ardent, passionate and such good fun in the sack that if the government knew about it they'd lock them up' - M.Bywater *Lee Willis - Musician and Software Engineering Student.* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 16:43:45 1997 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:48:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <970709104637_538785629@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Houten SGG gathering Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 152 Lines: 10 In a message dated 08/07/97 22:13:38, you write: > >Samsboss >(Who thinks, therefore he is) > > > I thought it was the farts that gave it away :-))) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 19:42:05 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.enterprise.net: [194.72.196.241] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <33C43021.1991@enterprise.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:43:13 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970616151953_57657224@emout02.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 939 Lines: 26 Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > > BillRitman@aol.com writes: > > > >Do you see why so many people criticise AOL for not actually telling its > > >subscribers what the net is and what it is for? > > > > And other ISPs do? Looks to me as if you are just finding fault again. > > > > Yep, I presume most other (Major public use, ie not set up with the > prime intention of spamming ...) ISP's do since you don't tend to get > problems with them. AOL should give out a netiquette guide to all new > users and not rely on the users finding it out for themselves. That > would eliminate some of the irresponsible uses like this ... Having had a tempory AOL account while I was in the USA I think I am right in saying that the 'netiquette' rules are very similar to those of other ISPs. But what has this got to do with 'netiquette' may I be so bold as to ask? BTW, have these postings only just arrived with you, or have you been away? Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 19:42:38 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.enterprise.net: [194.72.196.241] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <33C43158.361C@enterprise.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:48:24 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970620130512_322415758@emout11.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 363 Lines: 18 Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > > BillRitman@aol.com writes: > > > Bill. > > (fed up with something that is not SAM) > > Hey, if you don't like it you don't have to read it. > Doh.... Does not the same thing apply to you with newsgroups then? Samsboss. (Now thinking that three post, on the same old subject, from the same person, is just a little over the top). From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 19:42:38 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.enterprise.net: [194.72.196.241] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <33C431A7.1347@enterprise.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:49:43 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Houten SGG gathering References: <970709104637_538785629@emout18.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 258 Lines: 18 BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 08/07/97 22:13:38, you write: > > > > >Samsboss > >(Who thinks, therefore he is) > > > > > > > > I thought it was the farts that gave it away :-))) You wait - the knives are being sharpened. Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 9 19:42:39 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.enterprise.net: [194.72.196.241] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <33C430EF.2353@enterprise.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:46:39 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970618170958_-1731195107@emout18.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 654 Lines: 20 Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > > BillRitman@aol.com writes: > > > You do come across as an arrogant little runt you know. > > Having read what you have said as well as what Bob has said I think you are > > deliberatly setting out to cause trouble === again. > > It doesn't strike you as odd that around 10 people think Bob's wrong and > only three think he's right. On those odds around 77% of people are > pissed off with his behaviour. I'd say that that means he's wrong ... > > What d'you reckon Bill ? Its logic like that that gets people like Tony Blair into number 10 :( Samsboss. (Still wondering why anybods would drag up this old thing again). From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 10 13:39:08 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970620130512_322415758@emout11.mail.aol.com> <33C43158.361C@enterprise.net> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 10 Jul 1997 13:11:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: SamsBoss - The One And Only's message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:48:24 -0700" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.62/Emacs 19.34 Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 874 Lines: 27 SamsBoss - The One And Only writes: > > Hey, if you don't like it you don't have to read it. > > > Doh.... > > Does not the same thing apply to you with newsgroups then? > I was being sarcastic ... > (Now thinking that three post, on the same old subject, from the same > person, is just a little over the top). Yeah I agree but I've been away for three weeks so I felt like commenting on a couple of things that 'got my goat up' so to speak, otherwise I'd do what I've done with most of the other messages ie accept that I'm too late and not reply ... see Subject: Apologies -- 'Nerds remind me of musicians ... in my experience, both nerds and musicians are ardent, passionate and such good fun in the sack that if the government knew about it they'd lock them up' - M.Bywater *Lee Willis - Musician and Software Engineering Student.* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 10 19:13:22 1997 Message-ID: <33C57CE2.13C8@enterprise.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:22:58 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970620130512_322415758@emout11.mail.aol.com> <33C43158.361C@enterprise.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 979 Lines: 34 Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > > SamsBoss - The One And Only writes: > > > > Hey, if you don't like it you don't have to read it. > > > > > Doh.... > > > > Does not the same thing apply to you with newsgroups then? > > > > I was being sarcastic ... Ah, I see, sorry but its not something you see on the sam list very much :) > > > (Now thinking that three post, on the same old subject, from the same > > person, is just a little over the top). > > Yeah I agree but I've been away for three weeks so I felt like > commenting on a couple of things that 'got my goat up' so to speak, > otherwise I'd do what I've done with most of the other messages ie > accept that I'm too late and not reply ... Now see what tree weeks away does to you, remember that the next time you want to swan of on a luxuary holiday :) > > see Subject: Apologies Did, but only after I had answered your posts. Will teach us both to read all before replying to one. Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 10 21:03:00 1997 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:29:03 -0400 (EDT) From: BillRitman@aol.com Message-ID: <970710142859_-225262256@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1104 Lines: 26 In a message dated 10/07/97 03:33:33, you write: >SamsBoss - The One And Only writes: > >> Question? What is the problem??? All the newsgroups I have ever read >> have been FULL of adverts {even when their charter has excluded it}. > >Murder happens every day does this mean we should ignore it? No we >keep trying to stop it before it happens or at least punish people when >they do it ... > >Why should Usenet be any different. Just 'coz something happens doesn't >make it right! But murder is illegal, unless carried out on the legal orders of the state. On the other hand, as far as I can work out from lots of reading, posting appropriate adverts to usenet groups is perfectly legal - unless the spacific newsgroup's charter says "No adverts". While I will agree that adverts are posted in some newsgroups, against their rules, I hope you noted that Bob made several mentions of checking charters "if they had been posted". At least he stuck to the rules - you should reserve your attacks for those that do not. Bill. Getting ready for his holls - house painting. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 10 22:44:25 1997 Message-Id: <199707102055.WAA14450@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:56:10 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 852 Lines: 25 > Van: BillRitman@aol.com > Aan: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Onderwerp: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users > Datum: Thursday, July 10, 1997 8:29 > But murder is illegal, unless carried out on the legal orders of the state. > On the other hand, as far as I can work out from lots of reading, posting > appropriate adverts to usenet groups is perfectly legal - unless the spacific > newsgroup's charter says "No adverts". > While I will agree that adverts are posted in some newsgroups, against their > rules, I hope you noted that Bob made several mentions of checking charters > "if they had been posted". At least he stuck to the rules - you should > reserve your attacks for those that do not. Jeeezzz, still the same old excuses for spamming newsgroups Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] 14 BREAK, CONTINUE to repeat 10:1 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 08:16:50 1997 Message-Id: <199707110631.IAA09235@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: Sam users Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:31:23 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 542 Lines: 21 > Van: persona > Aan: RJV.Veeke.NL.Sam.Coupe@caiw.nl > Onderwerp: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users > Datum: Friday, July 11, 1997 1:38 > BTW I hear David Gommeren's moved to the UK? Surprised I didn't hear anything > about it on the Users-group? > > David L > You bet I am surprised, Martijn Groen and I where talking about David G. a few days ago of what happended to him. Any news of what he is doing at the moment? Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] 14 BREAK, CONTINUE to repeat 10:1 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 11:11:58 1997 Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:27:44 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <970710142859_-225262256@emout16.mail.aol.com> from "BillRitman@aol.com" at Jul 10, 97 02:29:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19970711092803Z49259-13708+13706@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 514 Lines: 13 > While I will agree that adverts are posted in some newsgroups, against their > rules, I hope you noted that Bob made several mentions of checking charters > "if they had been posted". At least he stuck to the rules - you should > reserve your attacks for those that do not. I presume that upon not finding any charters posted, Bob then checked teh FAQ repositories at src.doc.ic.ac.uk, and rtfm.mit.edu? Which, really, is the place you should check for these things -- not the newsgroups themselves. Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 12:55:26 1997 Message-ID: <3073D83001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:28:00 +0100 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Cc: fredpub@aol.com (fredpub@aol.com) Subject: Fred 78 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.20B.16 MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 367 Lines: 16 I got Fred 79 winging through the post the other day, which was nice but it suddenly occurred that Fred 78 had slipped me by. Did anyone else not get it, of has my postman been pocketing the floppy disc to keep the coffee stains off his desk? :) Dan. Mail: dandoore@bacg.com Web: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ "I would get up but the boy crippled me" - Homer From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 12:55:27 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970620130512_322415758@emout11.mail.aol.com> <33C43158.361C@enterprise.net> <33C57CE2.13C8@enterprise.net> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:50:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: SamsBoss - The One And Only's message of "Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:22:58 -0700" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.62/Emacs 19.34 Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 854 Lines: 21 SamsBoss - The One And Only writes: > > Yeah I agree but I've been away for three weeks so I felt like > > commenting on a couple of things that 'got my goat up' so to speak, > > otherwise I'd do what I've done with most of the other messages ie > > accept that I'm too late and not reply ... > > Now see what tree weeks away does to you, remember that the next time > you want to swan of on a luxuary holiday :) Hah!, I wish ... > Did, but only after I had answered your posts. Will teach us both to > read all before replying to one. Guilty as charged M'Lud! -- 'Nerds remind me of musicians ... in my experience, both nerds and musicians are ardent, passionate and such good fun in the sack that if the government knew about it they'd lock them up' - M.Bywater *Lee Willis - Musician and Software Engineering Student.* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 13:50:29 1997 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:40:18 +0100 (BST) From: Justin Skists To: SAM users list Subject: Yeah! Money at last! :) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 524 Lines: 19 Hi peeps. Just to change the subject (even though I'd hate to do it) from the spamming topic-line... I got a job offer!!!!!!! It's programming network equipment for Case Technology in Watford. At least i'd be able to afford to go to the next SAM show in Glocester. Are there any other SAM users on here living near Watford? We could get together for a drink or something... -- Justin Skists (jps@ark.environ.org.uk) BSc (Hons) Computer Science (graduating in a couple of weeks) De Montfort University, Leicester, UK. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 13:50:29 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: IRC chat. References: X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 11 Jul 1997 13:13:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: Paul Walker's message of "Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:32:43 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.62/Emacs 19.34 Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 676 Lines: 17 Paul Walker writes: > On 22 Jun 1997, Dave Whitmore wrote: > > > Hey, why don't we all get together on IRC sometime. We could have a > > 'SAM-users' channel and.. erm, chat and things. :) > > Samusers channel is now set up, on the DALnet system. There's a server at > defiant.dal.net - join #samusers, and you're away. :) Hmm, I can't seem to connect to defiant.dal.net, any ideas ? -- 'Nerds remind me of musicians ... in my experience, both nerds and musicians are ardent, passionate and such good fun in the sack that if the government knew about it they'd lock them up' - M.Bywater *Lee Willis - Musician and Software Engineering Student.* From imc Fri Jul 11 14:06:59 1997 Subject: Re: Yeah! Money at last! :) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:06:59 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Justin Skists" at Jul 11, 97 12:40:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 247 Lines: 7 On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:40:18 +0100 (BST), Justin Skists said: > Are there any other SAM users on here living near Watford? We could get > together for a drink or something... Depends on whether you think Oxford is near Watford, really. :-) imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 14:07:40 1997 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:04:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Paveley To: SAM users list Subject: Re: Yeah! Money at last! :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 284 Lines: 12 On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Justin Skists wrote: jps>Just to change the subject (even though I'd hate to do it) from the jps>spamming topic-line... jps> jps>I got a job offer!!!!!!! jps> jps>It's programming network equipment for Case Technology in Watford. Just to say well done! ....@/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 15:59:44 1997 Subject: Re: Fred 78 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:21:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: Simon.Cooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Cooke) In-Reply-To: <3073D83001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> from "Dan Doore" at Jul 11, 97 11:28:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19970711162139Z49202-297+138@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 376 Lines: 14 > I got Fred 79 winging through the post the other day, which > was nice but it suddenly occurred that Fred 78 had slipped me by. > > Did anyone else not get it, of has my postman been pocketing the > floppy disc to keep the coffee stains off his desk? > > :) Peculiarly enough, I didn't get Fred 78 either... Odd, isn't it? 79's sitting pretty on my desk though.. Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 15:59:44 1997 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:30:53 -0400 (EDT) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <970711103043_-1393656812@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 400 Lines: 14 In a message dated 11/07/97 09:12:28, you write: >Jeeezzz, still the same old excuses for spamming newsgroups > It is not an excuse Robert, you only make excuses for something you have done wrong. And that is my very last comment on this mailing list on the subject. I has nothing to do with SAM users so if anyone wants to continue the argument they are welcome to do it by direct email. Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 18:10:24 1997 Message-Id: <199707111652.SAA03815@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:52:05 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 950 Lines: 30 > Van: BrenchleyR@aol.com > Aan: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Onderwerp: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users > Datum: Friday, July 11, 1997 4:30 > If you don't mind but I am going to anwser this on for this list > In a message dated 11/07/97 09:12:28, you write: > > >Jeeezzz, still the same old excuses for spamming newsgroups > > > It is not an excuse Robert, you only make excuses for something you have done > wrong. > You know my point about spamming or whatever you call it and I am not going to comment on it anymore because we are not getting a inch closer to each other. > And that is my very last comment on this mailing list on the subject. I has > nothing to do with SAM users so if anyone wants to continue the argument they > are welcome to do it by direct email. > Direct Email? Then why did you repley to list instead of directly to me? Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] 14 BREAK, CONTINUE to repeat 10:1 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 18:10:24 1997 Message-Id: <199707111703.TAA05583@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Fred 78 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:00:23 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 593 Lines: 20 > Van: Dan Doore > Aan: Sam Users Mailing List > CC: fredpub@aol.com > Onderwerp: Fred 78 > Datum: Friday, July 11, 1997 12:28 > > > I got Fred 79 winging through the post the other day, which > was nice but it suddenly occurred that Fred 78 had slipped me by. > > Did anyone else not get it, of has my postman been pocketing the > floppy disc to keep the coffee stains off his desk? > > :) > Nope no coffee stains, but it has the "Cute demo" on it :) Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] 14 BREAK, CONTINUE to repeat 10:1 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 18:38:00 1997 Message-ID: <33C6CED9.1D50@enterprise.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:24:57 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970620130512_322415758@emout11.mail.aol.com> <33C43158.361C@enterprise.net> <33C57CE2.13C8@enterprise.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 255 Lines: 11 Uncle Bulgaria wrote: [removed to save space] > > Did, but only after I had answered your posts. Will teach us both to > > read all before replying to one. > > Guilty as charged M'Lud! I wish, I wish!! Have you seen how much money they get? Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 22:53:22 1997 Message-Id: <199707112151.WAA18072@mail.enterprise.net> From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-FTN-To: Uncle Bulgaria Subject: IRC chat. Date: 11 Jul 1997 18:40:39 Organization: Dalmation enterprises References: X-newsreader: Spot 1.3 #1234 X-mailer: NetGate 1.3 (Amiga; TCP/IP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 371 Lines: 19 In a message of 11 Jul 97 Uncle Bulgaria wrote to sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no: Hi Uncle, r at >> defiant.dal.net - join #samusers, and you're away. :) UB> Hmm, I can't seem to connect to defiant.dal.net, any ideas ? Yes - try this instead: liberator.dal.net Byeeee _ |_)ave (/\)hitmore http://homepages.enterprise.net/davewhitmore/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 11 23:02:02 1997 Message-ID: <33C68E95.3A72@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:50:45 +0100 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Yeah! Money at last! :) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 874 Lines: 28 Tim Paveley wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Justin Skists wrote: > jps>Just to change the subject (even though I'd hate to do it) from the > jps>spamming topic-line... > jps> > jps>I got a job offer!!!!!!! > jps> > jps>It's programming network equipment for Case Technology in Watford. > > Just to say well done! > Congrats from meee tooo. Start your CV now if you havn't already. ;-) -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-SX) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley@ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr@ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jul 12 23:20:06 1997 Subject: Usenet Spammage To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 23:13:51 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19970713001400Z49185-297+1294@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 310 Lines: 11 Just thought I'd add this to the flames... Does anyone have anything *interesting* to talk about? It seems that all we're doing is continuously going over old ground... Some SAM news would be nice. Any good projects out there? Any new, innovative games? Any screenshots? Anything. At. All. Please. Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jul 13 13:18:51 1997 Message-Id: From: ee31ag@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Andrew M Gale) Subject: Re: Usenet Spammage To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 13:14:49 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <19970713001400Z49185-297+1294@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "Simon Cooke" at Jul 12, 97 11:13:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1591 Lines: 42 > Does anyone have anything *interesting* to talk about? It seems that all > we're doing is continuously going over old ground... > > Some SAM news would be nice. Any good projects out there? Any new, > innovative games? Any screenshots? > Yup... I have, at last, pretty much finished my IBM keyboard interface for the SAM, and it works a treat! I have designed a nice little pcb which fits inside the main case (and no soldering is necessary to fit it), but the first one I made yesterday had a few errors on it, so I need to try again, but hopefully I should have it all up and running by next weekend. Oh, and I've spent this morning designing a pcb for a spectrum version, but that'll plug into the expansion port. Other things are: I've dug out my video digitiser and have been working on it a bit - it's pretty good and should be quite cheap, but I don't know if enough people will be interested to finish it off and put it on a pcb. Also, I've got a simple little circuit which connects to a PC serial mouse and lights leds when you move the mouse. As it is it could be used to make a mouse emulate a joystick, and with a few more chips I could make it plug into the SAM mouse port and work as though it were a genuine sam mouse. I think I said a while ago that I was going to write a sam hardware book... well I've made a start and got the first few chapters done, but it has sort of stagnated lately. And I've got the Jupiter Ace ROM to work on the SAM, but slowly - so if anyone wants to give forth a try! So that's me..... what are the rest of you lot up to? Andy From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jul 13 17:25:05 1997 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:21:45 -0400 (EDT) From: BillRitman@aol.com Message-ID: <970713122145_275688300@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1017 Lines: 24 In a message dated 10/07/97 22:18:49, you write: >BillRitman@aol.com writes: > >> >Do you see why so many people criticise AOL for not actually telling its >> >subscribers what the net is and what it is for? >> >> And other ISPs do? Looks to me as if you are just finding fault again. >> > >Yep, I presume most other (Major public use, ie not set up with the >prime intention of spamming ...) ISP's do since you don't tend to get >problems with them. AOL should give out a netiquette guide to all new >users and not rely on the users finding it out for themselves. That >would eliminate some of the irresponsible uses like this ... Unlike 'other ISPs' AOL do have a guide, which you are encouraged to read before getting to the newsnet screen (by that I mean you are offered it to read several times). I think you should remember that AOL is the largest ISP in the world by a long way and is still growing (adding some 25000 extra modems to their system each week). Bill. (Taking a rest from stripping paint). From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jul 13 17:50:39 1997 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:51:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Paveley To: Sam Users Mailing List Subject: Students Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 339 Lines: 18 Hi all. Went to rent a washing machine yesterday. Told by the staff that we couldn't. Hotpoint had instructed them not to rent to students. The people in the flat below me could rent one, since they are not students. They are also the sort of people who'd be likely to smash it up. There is probably a moral there. Bye all ....@/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jul 13 20:53:14 1997 Message-Id: <199707131950.VAA27496@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:51:05 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 647 Lines: 20 > Van: BillRitman@aol.com > Aan: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Onderwerp: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users > Datum: Sunday, July 13, 1997 6:21 > > >BillRitman@aol.com writes: > Unlike 'other ISPs' AOL do have a guide, which you are encouraged to read > before getting to the newsnet screen (by that I mean you are offered it to > read several times). I think you should remember that AOL is the largest ISP > in the world by a long way and is still growing (adding some 25000 extra > modems to their system each week). > Should I be impressed or what? Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] 14 BREAK, CONTINUE to repeat 10:1 From imc Mon Jul 14 10:02:28 1997 Subject: Re: IRC chat. To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:02:28 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <199707121100.MAA11015@mail.enterprise.net> from "Dave Whitmore" at Jul 11, 97 10:46:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 397 Lines: 20 On 11 Jul 1997 22:46:00, Dave Whitmore said: > Yes - try this instead: > > liberator.dal.net > Yes - try this instead: > > liberator.dal.net > Yes - try this instead: > > liberator.dal.net > Yes - try this instead: > > liberator.dal.net We're not deaf, you know. :-) imc From imc Mon Jul 14 10:33:35 1997 Subject: Re: Usenet Spammage To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:33:35 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <19970713001400Z49185-297+1294@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "Simon Cooke" at Jul 12, 97 11:13:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 413 Lines: 13 On Sat, 12 Jul 1997 23:13:51 +0100 (BST), Simon Cooke said: > Does anyone have anything *interesting* to talk about? It seems that all > we're doing is continuously going over old ground... > Anything. At. All. Please. OK... As you may have seen in comp.sys.sinclair, there is someone who would like to know the exact cycle timings of Sam tape loading. Would anyone like to volunteer to work them out? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jul 14 15:30:37 1997 From: Gavin Smith Organization: University of Ulster To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:41:56 GMT Subject: IRC chat X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <67FE6BA2077@smserver1.ulst.ac.uk> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1803 Lines: 34 A few people on the list have been talking about IRC lately - sorry that I'm going back on an old subject, but I haven't been in Uni lately to check my mail... Anyway, I suggested the IRC channel for Sam users back in January, but no-one was interested, so I gave it up. There were a few good arguments for not having an IRC channel - such as you would have to be connected all the time, in case you missed a discussion, whereas with the mailing list you don't miss anything, even if you only pick up your mail once a week. IRC would also be more expensive, as you have to stay connected longer. However, it would still be nice to have an IRC channel were we could talk about general things - if anything important was discussed, an email could be sent to the mailing list with details, so that no-one would miss out on anything. So congrats to whoever it was started the #samusers channel on dalnet. I've been using IRC for a few years now, and run a channel on Undernet called #studentsbar which is fairly popular and usually has about 20 people on it at any one time. To be honest, I think Undernet is much more stable, and less prone to lag than Dalnet - there is also a lot more freedom on Undernet, and more servers. I've started a mirror channel on Undernet, also called #samusers - if you don't find anyone on the Dalnet #samusers try the Undernet one, as I'm usually there, with the nick SparkY or SparkYY. (I have to be on Undernet you see, as I run #studentsbar). By the way, to register the channel, I need 10 e-mail addresses of supporters - could as many as possible mail me and give me permission to use their address on the application form? Gavin PS I'm on Undernet now - try /server london.uk.eu.undernet.org 1234 or /server diemen.nl.eu.undernet.org 7000 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jul 14 23:12:01 1997 From: Gavin Smith Organization: University of Ulster To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:23:58 GMT Subject: IRC chat X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <6879A7C6506@smserver1.ulst.ac.uk> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 396 Lines: 10 Well, I'm just about to head off home (I've been in Uni all day today, and I'm starving!). It was good to talk to David Ledbury and Colin Piggot #samusers on Undernet today (there was some other guy who claimed he had a Sam too but blew his cover when he said he plays Duke Nukem 3d on his...*ahem*) I'll be on IRC on Wednesday again, so maybe see some more of you then? Nighty night, Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 15 02:34:58 1997 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:35:17 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Dave Hooper Subject: Re: Usenet Spammage In-Reply-To: <9707140933.AA26774@gruffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 270 Lines: 10 >As you may have seen in comp.sys.sinclair, there is someone who would like >to know the exact cycle timings of Sam tape loading. Would anyone like to >volunteer to work them out? > Is it not in the Techy Manual? -- Dave Hooper Yes, I'm still here. Different email. From imc Tue Jul 15 10:05:45 1997 Subject: Re: Usenet Spammage To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:05:45 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Dave Hooper" at Jul 14, 97 08:35:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 329 Lines: 10 On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:35:17 +0100, Dave Hooper said: > >As you may have seen in comp.sys.sinclair, there is someone who would like > >to know the exact cycle timings of Sam tape loading. > Is it not in the Techy Manual? I very much doubt it as the technical manual isn't _that_ technical. :-) I also haven't got a copy. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 15 21:16:35 1997 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:09:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Clarkson To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: 3rd NSSS! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 639 Lines: 21 As much as I hate to spoil the rumours that have built up amongst you, there isn't going to be any 3rd NSSS as far as I'm concerned. I'm in the States now and by the time I get back there isn't going to be enough time to organise one. George Boyle was threatening to organise one, try asking him. His phone number is (01937) 582837. Whether he will or not is another matter entirely. Allan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan Clarkson at Computer-Ed High-Tech Camp, Newton, Massachusetts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 15 22:29:37 1997 Message-ID: <33CC59F1.19FF@clara.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 22:19:45 -0700 From: persona Organization: persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: 3rd NSSS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 166 Lines: 7 I've spoken to George and there is going to be a third NSSS show at Wetherby on September 20th. For more details, contact him on; 01937 582837 Malcolm Mackenzie. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 15 22:51:36 1997 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:47:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <970715174503_-191108331@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 382 Lines: 17 In a message dated 12/07/97 23:53:24, you write: >Uncle Bulgaria wrote: >[removed to save space] >> > Did, but only after I had answered your posts. Will teach us both to >> > read all before replying to one. >> >> Guilty as charged M'Lud! > >I wish, I wish!! Have you seen how much money they get? > >Samsboss. You have to be sober to be a judge - so that lets you out. Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 15 22:51:42 1997 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:47:14 -0400 (EDT) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <970715174513_-224669547@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Students Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 730 Lines: 29 In a message dated 13/07/97 16:51:58, you write: >Hi all. > >Went to rent a washing machine yesterday. > >Told by the staff that we couldn't. > >Hotpoint had instructed them not to rent to students. > >The people in the flat below me could rent one, since they are not >students. They are also the sort of people who'd be likely to smash it >up. > >There is probably a moral there. > >Bye all > >....@/ Yes, the moral is but it. It will be cheaper in the long-run. Ok, you may need someone to act a guarantor (sp?) if you buy it on HP, but you should be able to con (sorry persuade) a relitive to do that for you. Hope this helps. (at least you seem to plan of washing your things - more than some studants do ) Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 16 18:50:42 1997 Message-ID: <33CD6AE9.5223@enterprise.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 17:44:25 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Calling All Windows And DOS Users References: <970715174503_-191108331@emout05.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 569 Lines: 24 BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/07/97 23:53:24, you write: > > >Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > >[removed to save space] > >> > Did, but only after I had answered your posts. Will teach us both to > >> > read all before replying to one. > >> > >> Guilty as charged M'Lud! > > > >I wish, I wish!! Have you seen how much money they get? > > > >Samsboss. > > You have to be sober to be a judge - so that lets you out. > > Bob. Look, just cos I couldnee find the keyhole last time it didnt make me drunk. Anyway, I'm sober most of the time :( Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 16 20:12:37 1997 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 97 20:07:48 GMT Message-ID: <9_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Miss me? Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 453 Lines: 16 Hey! I'm back! Miss me! I'm subscribed at home, on my brand new account. I'm using my Atari ST to send this. Don't laugh. I forgot to unsub before I went on holiday from uni. Won't I be popular? So what's happened during my absense? Any SAMSON news? __ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- james@lhutz.demon.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 12:33:17 1997 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 07:27:01 EDT From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Miss me? Message-Id: <19970717112603Z49160-1175+1763@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 270 Lines: 13 Date: 1997-07-17 12:17 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 97 20:07:48 GMT > From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) > Hey] I'm back] Miss me] Yes. but my aim is getting better ;-) nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 13:48:25 1997 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 97 12:08:48 GMT Message-ID: <24_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Ho, ho, ho. Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 649 Lines: 19 Oh, very funny Nev. ;). (I would have pasted in your original message, but it got jelled to the bottom of another one somehow - what did you do?) Anyway, the point of this message - WHERE THE HELL IS EVERYONE?! It's a bit too quiet. Does this mean that this mailing list has died? (Like the SAM did about 7 years ago ;) ) Well.. That's about it. Looking foward to some mail (Even if it is only 300 flames for saying the SAM died 7 years ago.) __ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- james@lhutz.demon.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 14:00:38 1997 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:04:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Paveley To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Ho, ho, ho. In-Reply-To: <24_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 543 Lines: 16 On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, James R Curry wrote: James>It's a bit too quiet. Does this mean that this mailing list has James>died? (Like the SAM did about 7 years ago ;) ) No, it just means it's summer again, and all the arguementitive, arrogant little students who live off us tax payers can't afford to check there email, so they don't bother us hard working folk. Or something like that ;) ....@/ PS> You sam died about 7 years ago, that's urm July 1990, it was probably under guarantee still so why didn't you take it back to be fixed? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 14:15:17 1997 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:10:42 EDT From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ho, ho, ho. Message-Id: <19970717130954Z49182-1175+1829@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 775 Lines: 27 Date: 1997-07-17 14:10 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >Subject: Ho, ho, ho. >Oh, very funny Nev. ;). (I would have pasted in your original message, >but it got jelled to the bottom of another one somehow - what did you >do?) I used mic****st mail via an IBM gateway. nuff said :-/ >Anyway, the point of this message - WHERE THE HELL IS EVERYONE?] >It's a bit too quiet. Does this mean that this mailing list has >died? (Like the SAM did about 7 years ago ;) ) Well James, it's always this quiet during the uni hols. :-) nev. microsoft is an acronym for: most intelligent customers realize operating systems only fool teenagers From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 14:59:55 1997 Message-ID: <6280D83001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:42:00 +0100 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no}) Subject: RE: Ho, ho, ho. Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 591 Lines: 26 > Anyway, the point of this message - WHERE THE HELL IS EVERYONE?! > > It's a bit too quiet. Does this mean that this mailing list has > died? (Like the SAM did about 7 years ago ;) ) > > Well.. That's about it. Looking foward to some mail (Even if it is > only 300 flames for saying the SAM died 7 years ago.) *grin* Things have been quiet for a while, probably because the stoodents have gone back to mummy ;-) The only exciting thing to happen to my Sam is the mysterious absence of Fred78.... > james@lhutz.demon.co.uk ^^^^^ Attorney at law??? :) Dan From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 16:04:41 1997 Message-Id: From: ee31ag@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Andrew M Gale) Subject: Flash! poke... To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:00:52 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Tim Paveley" at Jul 13, 97 05:51:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 271 Lines: 10 Can anyone remember the poke for Flash! which stops the cursor from speeding up after the joystick/cursors have been held for a while? I think Blue Alpha put it in their instructions for the JoyMouse. Speaking of BA, what ever happened to Adrian Parker? Cheers, Andy From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 17:00:30 1997 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:28:56 +0100 (BST) From: Justin Skists To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Yeah! Money at last! :) In-Reply-To: <9707111307.AA08552@gruffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 471 Lines: 15 On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Ian Collier wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:40:18 +0100 (BST), Justin Skists said: > > Are there any other SAM users on here living near Watford? We could get > > together for a drink or something... > > Depends on whether you think Oxford is near Watford, really. :-) I suppose it's close enough. :) -- Justin Skists (jps@ark.environ.org.uk) BSc (Hons) Computer Science (graduating in a couple of weeks) De Montfort University, Leicester, UK. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 17:40:05 1997 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 97 14:44:22 GMT Message-ID: <28_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: RE: Ho, ho, ho. Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 724 Lines: 33 In E-Mail <6280D83001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Dan Doore wrote:- > >The only exciting thing to happen to my Sam is the mysterious absence of >Fred78.... You're not missing much... Uh, oh, I hope Darren doesn't read this. (I'm guessing he does.) Mine doesn't even work properly, either. >> james@lhutz.demon.co.uk > ^^^^^ >Attorney at law??? YES! Glad someone got it. I wanted LionelHutz, but my ST's software couldn't handle it, so I had to change it. Sob. :( >:) > >Dan __ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- james@lhutz.demon.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 17:40:05 1997 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 97 14:57:36 GMT Message-ID: <30_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: Mr_pants@lhutz.demon.co.uk (Graham Goring) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: I'm a failure and damn PROUD of it! Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1496 Lines: 30 Hello me old muckers, It's been a while since I last communicated with you but since I'm at Curry's house I thought I'd abuse the facilities (urinate on the carpet, vomit on the cat... that kinda' thing). Just thought I'd say a big hello and remark about how poopy the last issue of FRED was (and the best thing is you can just read that sentance every month and it remains as topical as ever ;) ). So, who's left the list and who's joined? I'm guessing a load of those putrescent youngsters that live off the state. What are they called? Um... STUDENTS! That's it. Oh, yes I'm in the workplace now happily earning not quite enough to warrant paying back my student loan and hoping like hell the Student loans company goes belly-up. And I also suppose that since I now am sending messages to the Sam- Users list I can now stop doing any work on my SAM... Hurrah! (Well, to be honest I stopped using the thing months ago for anything other than playing Rainbow Islands... Anyway, I suppose I'd better be off now as James' room smell strange. Can't possibly think whats causing that... But his dog has been "Missing Presumed Dead" for quite a while... Ugh! Au revoir, Mon ami... Mr Pants __ +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Life is like a box of chocolates" | | Mmm... Chocolates... | +---------------( Mr_pants@lhutz.demon.co.uk )-------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 18:43:53 1997 Message-ID: <33CEBABA.5FA9@enterprise.net> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:37:14 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Miss me? References: <9_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 433 Lines: 23 James R Curry wrote: > > Hey! I'm back! Miss me! Not much, but welcome back :) > > I'm subscribed at home, on my brand new account. I'm using my Atari ST > to send this. Don't laugh. Why should we laugh. Good machine. > > I forgot to unsub before I went on holiday from uni. > > Won't I be popular? Doubt it, but what the hell. > > So what's happened during my absense? Any SAMSON news? Sad, not one bit :( Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 17 20:34:14 1997 Message-ID: <33CED54C.34FA@enterprise.net> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:30:36 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Ho, ho, ho. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 502 Lines: 18 Tim Paveley wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, James R Curry wrote: > James>It's a bit too quiet. Does this mean that this mailing list has > James>died? (Like the SAM did about 7 years ago ;) ) > > No, it just means it's summer again, and all the arguementitive, arrogant > little students who live off us tax payers can't afford to check there > email, so they don't bother us hard working folk. > > Or something like that ;) > > ....@/ > Oh that was good, that was very, very good. Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jul 18 17:02:21 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: dxmint.cern.ch: Host hpopl1.cern.ch [137.138.243.47] claimed to be hpopb1.cern.ch Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:59:04 +0200 (METDST) From: Allan Skillman X-Sender: allan@hpopl1.cern.ch To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: SimCoupe Update Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 567 Lines: 20 Hello All, I have now completed most of the code for the next release of SimCoupe (version 0.7). I will be away from work (and net access) for a couple of weeks after today. In this time I hope to get the documentation completed so that I can release version 0.7 when I get back. Highlights of v0.7 : - First official release of SimCoupe for DOS - Improved User interface, including mouse pointer control I also hope get the DOS version reading and writing real SAM disks - probably only through the BIOS (which is known to be problematic). Bye for now Allan From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jul 19 18:45:49 1997 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 97 11:18:38 GMT Message-ID: <44_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: It's gotta be better than this.. Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 532 Lines: 17 Ah, come on.. I know most people are on holiday.. But it's gotta be better than this. If there's no SAM news, can't we at least discuss something irrelevant?! This list it like.. dead. Or is my Email software playing up, and I'm just not recieving anything? __ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James@lhutz.demon.co.uk Looking for a meaningful or humourous quote here..? Forget it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jul 19 19:45:32 1997 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:41:35 -0400 (EDT) From: BillRitman@aol.com Message-ID: <970719144101_681918711@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: It's gotta be better than this.. Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 406 Lines: 14 In a message dated 19/07/97 17:42:46, you write: >Ah, come on.. I know most people are on holiday.. But it's gotta be >better than this. If there's no SAM news, can't we at least discuss >something irrelevant?! Like what? You start and I will try my best to join in. > >This list it like.. dead. Or is my Email software playing up, and I'm >just not recieving anything? Does seem like that. Bill From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jul 20 00:07:08 1997 Message-Id: <199707192306.AAA02786@mail.enterprise.net> From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-FTN-To: James R Curry Subject: It's gotta be better than this.. Date: 19 Jul 1997 23:59:34 Organization: Dalmation enterprises References: <44_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> X-newsreader: Spot 1.3 #1234 X-mailer: NetGate 1.3 (Amiga; TCP/IP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2558 Lines: 51 In a message of 19 Jul 97 James R Curry wrote to sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no: Hi James, JRC> Ah, come on.. I know most people are on holiday.. But it's gotta be JRC> better than this. If there's no SAM news, can't we at least discuss JRC> something irrelevant?! Well Dalmations first day as a fully fledged 33.6 speed BBS went disasterously wrong (as if anyone wants to know). :((( First of all the weather was too good. People tend not to call when it's nice and I can't blame them. Anyway, the first call came in at 9.00pm - like an hour b4 it's supposed to go off. I'd bumped up the speed in the BBS config to 57600 and strangely, the caller was allowed to log on, but as soon as he'd entered his password the BBS decided to kick him off - reporting that he was too slow to log on. His modem is a 28800 and the minimum BBS connect is set at 1200.. He tries again and the same thing happens. So I phoned him back and told him I was going to put the maximum baud back down to 38400. The next time he called the modem refused to pick up the line. Anyway, he tried quite a few times - and in between I used the modem to do the net and logged onto a BBS to check that it was working okay (it was). After a few more goes, I shut the BBS down and loaded a comms program called TERM (this is an Amiga 1200). The phone rings, so I do an ATA and the modem answers and computers connect. I Say "Hello David - sorry about all this..", and a line appears "This is Kev Cooper, sorry if I spoiled a party :)". So I was chatting to Kev for ages, not wanting to turn him away - all the while knowing that the other person was probably trying to get through.. and I still don't know if the BBS works. It's the only thing I've had problems with, the net works great, other bulletin boards work, I can answer the phone using other comms programs... I do hope I don't have to ditch this software and start again. :(( BTW, Kev was using his SAM and a beta version (or was it alpha) of Cookie's 'Termite' - with his 14400 modem. (Simon, what's the score with Termite?) JRC> This list it like.. dead. Or is my Email software playing up, and JRC> I'm just not recieving anything? I'm pretty glad it's quiet ATM. Like a calm b4 the storm :)) _ -------------------------------------- |_)ave | Dalmation - Saturdays 12 till 10 pm | (/\)hitmore | homepages.enterprise.net.dalm.html | | UK 01744 614150 | -------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jul 20 16:23:02 1997 Message-Id: <199707201522.QAA27674@mail.enterprise.net> From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-FTN-To: Lesbian Seagulls Subject: IRC Date: 20 Jul 1997 16:17:55 Organization: Dalmation enterprises X-newsreader: Spot 1.3 #1234 X-mailer: NetGate 1.3 (Amiga; TCP/IP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 396 Lines: 11 I'll be in #SAMUSERS at 9pm (tonight). I'll be doing a bit of web browsing and ftp - so giz a ping if you turn up. Bye, _ -------------------------------------- |_)ave | Dalmation - Saturdays 12 till 10 pm | (/\)hitmore | homepages.enterprise.net.dalm.html | | UK 01744 614150 | -------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jul 21 14:13:23 1997 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 97 01:44:12 GMT Message-ID: <59_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: IRC Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 695 Lines: 27 In E-Mail <199707201522.QAA27674@mail.enterprise.net> davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) wrote:- >I'll be in #SAMUSERS at 9pm (tonight). I'll be doing a bit of web browsing >and ftp - so giz a ping if you turn up. Erk! It's now 2:47am. I'll just slip on my Time Boots and see you in a minute. Hey..? What am I doing in the early Jurassic era? __ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James@lhutz.demon.co.uk Looking for a meaningful or humourous quote here..? Forget it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jul 21 21:41:34 1997 Message-ID: <+wUquAArPN0zIw46@windchime.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 15:49:15 +0100 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Dave Subject: Re: Ho, ho, ho. In-Reply-To: <6280D83001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 247 Lines: 13 >Things have been quiet for a while, probably because the stoodents have >gone back to mummy ;-) Speaking of stoodents, did any one ever take a visit to http://yi.com/home/HooperDave/Tshirts ? (Just outta interest) Dave Got a job at last. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jul 21 22:52:16 1997 Message-ID: <33D42F70.15BA@clara.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 20:56:51 -0700 From: David Ledbury Organization: persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 351 Lines: 15 persona wrote: > > I've spoken to George and there is going to be a third NSSS show at > Wetherby on September 20th. > > For more details, contact him on; 01937 582837 > > Malcolm Mackenzie. Whoops! Should be 01937 583827! But if you want to get details by post, the address is; NSSS, 32 Barleyfields Road, Wetherby, West Yorkshire, LS22 6PN. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 22 08:43:33 1997 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 03:41:14 EDT From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ho, ho, ho. Message-Id: <19970722074029Z49163-1175+5177@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 465 Lines: 20 Date: 1997-07-22 08:41 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 15:49:15 +0100 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >From: Dave >Subject: Re: Ho, ho, ho. >Speaking of stoodents, did any one ever take a visit to >http://yi.com/home/HooperDave/Tshirts Yep went last nite and got a 'server not responding' message. It was dead good looked just like the real thing. me From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 22 16:51:50 1997 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 97 02:53:04 GMT Message-ID: <69_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 790 Lines: 36 In E-Mail <33D42F70.15BA@clara.net> David Ledbury wrote:- >persona wrote: >> >> I've spoken to George and there is going to be a third NSSS show at >> Wetherby on September 20th. >> >> For more details, contact him on; 01937 582837 >> >> Malcolm Mackenzie. Whoa! When was this message posted? I never recieved it! >Whoops! Should be 01937 583827! > >But if you want to get details by post, the address is; >NSSS, 32 Barleyfields Road, Wetherby, West Yorkshire, LS22 6PN. > > > > __ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James@lhutz.demon.co.uk Looking for a meaningful or humourous quote here..? Forget it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 22 18:23:18 1997 Message-ID: <33D54C9C.7848@enterprise.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:13:16 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] References: <69_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 660 Lines: 32 James R Curry wrote: > > In E-Mail <33D42F70.15BA@clara.net> > David Ledbury wrote:- > > >persona wrote: > >> > >> I've spoken to George and there is going to be a third NSSS show at > >> Wetherby on September 20th. > >> > >> For more details, contact him on; 01937 582837 > >> > >> Malcolm Mackenzie. > > Whoa! When was this message posted? I never recieved it! > > >Whoops! Should be 01937 583827! > > > >But if you want to get details by post, the address is; > >NSSS, 32 Barleyfields Road, Wetherby, West Yorkshire, LS22 6PN. > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Could you have kill-filed the original as mine was? Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 23 01:37:32 1997 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 97 00:15:30 GMT Message-ID: <77_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 629 Lines: 22 In E-Mail <33D54C9C.7848@enterprise.net> SamsBoss - The One And Only wrote:- >> Whoa! When was this message posted? I never recieved it! >> >Could you have kill-filed the original as mine was? Nope, that's not it. But can anyone tell me when it was posted, because it might have been before I subscribed with this address. __ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James@lhutz.demon.co.uk Looking for a meaningful or humourous quote here..? Forget it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From imc Wed Jul 23 10:31:29 1997 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:31:29 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <77_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> from "James R Curry" at Jul 23, 97 00:15:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 337 Lines: 11 On Wed, 23 Jul 97 00:15:30 GMT, James R Curry said: > Nope, that's not it. But can anyone tell me when it was posted, because > it might have been before I subscribed with this address. Tue, 15 Jul 1997 22:19:45 -0700 Malcolm was obviously in California when he posted this... (Not really of course - the power of suggestion.) imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 23 18:47:56 1997 Message-Id: <199707231743.SAA09133@mail.enterprise.net> From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-FTN-To: SamsBoss - The One And Only Subject: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] Date: 22 Jul 1997 18:39:02 Organization: Dalmation enterprises References: <33D54C9C.7848@enterprise.net> X-newsreader: Spot 1.3 #1234 X-mailer: NetGate 1.3 (Amiga; TCP/IP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 520 Lines: 18 In a message of 22 Jul 97 SamsBoss - The One And Only wrote to sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no: >> Whoa! When was this message posted? I never recieved it! STO> Could you have kill-filed the original as mine was? Why would you want to do that? _ -------------------------------------- |_)ave | Dalmation - Saturdays 12 till 10 pm | (/\)hitmore | homepages.enterprise.net.dalm.html | | UK 01744 614150 | -------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 23 18:47:56 1997 Message-Id: <199707231743.SAA09142@mail.enterprise.net> From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-FTN-To: SAM Abusers Subject: Time for a break. Date: 23 Jul 1997 12:41:10 Organization: Dalmation enterprises X-newsreader: Spot 1.3 #1234 X-mailer: NetGate 1.3 (Amiga; TCP/IP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Status: RO Content-Length: 591 Lines: 16 Greetings, Dalmation will be taking a break this coming Saturday (26th). The computer and other stuff will be at my ma-in-laws' - and she refuses to have calls transferred there. The sysop and his family will be living in a tent for a week. Normal service will be resumed the weekend after. [End of announcement] _ -------------------------------------- |_)ave | Dalmation - Saturdays 12 till 10 pm | (/\)hitmore | homepages.enterprise.net.dalm.html | | UK 01744 614150 | -------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 24 15:27:16 1997 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 97 21:59:24 GMT Message-ID: <78_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 897 Lines: 33 In E-Mail <9707230931.AA07311@gruffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Ian Collier wrote:- >On Wed, 23 Jul 97 00:15:30 GMT, James R Curry said: >> Nope, that's not it. But can anyone tell me when it was posted, because >> it might have been before I subscribed with this address. > >Tue, 15 Jul 1997 22:19:45 -0700 Aha! An explanation. (got this account on the 16th.) :) >Malcolm was obviously in California when he posted this... > >(Not really of course - the power of suggestion.) > >imc Still complaining about peoples clocks, Ian..? Ah! Nothing has changed. It's good to be back. ;) __ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James@lhutz.demon.co.uk Looking for a meaningful or humourous quote here..? Forget it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 24 15:27:16 1997 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:38:56 +0100 (BST) From: Justin Skists To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] In-Reply-To: <9707230931.AA07311@gruffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 343 Lines: 14 On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Ian Collier wrote: > (Not really of course - the power of suggestion.) Aaaarrrgggghhhh!!!!! Not that awful Harry Hill git with the "tiny" shirt collars.. I hate that guy!!!! -- Justin Skists (jps@ark.environ.org.uk) BSc (Hons) Computer Science (graduating in a couple of weeks) De Montfort University, Leicester, UK. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 24 16:25:50 1997 Message-ID: <33D7D476.2F1B@enterprise.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:17:26 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] References: <33D54C9C.7848@enterprise.net> <199707231743.SAA09133@mail.enterprise.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 374 Lines: 17 Dave Whitmore wrote: > > In a message of 22 Jul 97 SamsBoss - The One And Only wrote to sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no: > > >> Whoa! When was this message posted? I never recieved it! > > STO> Could you have kill-filed the original as mine was? > > Why would you want to do that? > There as just some people who I don't like so they are in the kill-file. HTH. Samsboss. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 24 20:40:53 1997 Message-Id: <199707241940.UAA15133@mail.enterprise.net> From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-FTN-To: SamsBoss - The One And Only Subject: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] Date: 24 Jul 1997 20:38:21 Organization: Dalmation enterprises References: <33D7D476.2F1B@enterprise.net> X-newsreader: Spot 1.3 #1234 X-mailer: NetGate 1.3 (Amiga; TCP/IP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 578 Lines: 20 In a message of 24 Jul 97 SamsBoss - The One And Only wrote to sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no: >> Why would you want to do that? STO> There as just some people who I don't like so they are in the STO> kill-file. I guess I'm not in your baaaad books then. :) What on earth have you got against Malcolm? _ -------------------------------------- |_)ave | Dalmation - Saturdays 12 till 10 pm | (/\)hitmore | homepages.enterprise.net.dalm.html | | UK 01744 614150 | -------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 24 21:26:07 1997 Message-ID: <33D81BFF.5634@enterprise.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 20:22:39 -0700 From: SamsBoss - The One And Only Organization: Sam Users Forever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 3rd NSSS] References: <33D7D476.2F1B@enterprise.net> <199707241940.UAA15133@mail.enterprise.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 796 Lines: 29 Dave Whitmore wrote: > > In a message of 24 Jul 97 SamsBoss - The One And Only wrote to sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no: > > >> Why would you want to do that? > > STO> There as just some people who I don't like so they are in the > STO> kill-file. > > I guess I'm not in your baaaad books then. :) > > What on earth have you got against Malcolm? > Oh no! Perish the thought. The master of Dalmation, in a kill-file, no.no.no. And its not Malcolm I kill-filed, it was DL. (Oh and AC as well but he ai't around at the moment I understand). To get DL there was a need to kill on Persona, as every message ever posted using the name Persona seems to have really come from DL :( By nature, I dislike kill-files, but I do make exceptions. Samsboss (who if prolly in lots of peoples killer-files) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 29 20:01:28 1997 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:58:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <970729145755_-1709784434@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: I did it, I did it, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 489 Lines: 15 I got into nevelley@ndirect and I snuggled, and I found no less than 190 messages that it told me I had not had from Enterprise. Then it took my posings and went zap-zap-zap instead of "give me half an owwer and I'll think about it". Me very pleased. Me even more please cos Jenpen came in today with her matternity dress on and she looked supper and she was ever (ever) so pleased with it. Oh I'm a happy boy. Give me a ring latter if you has time. Lots of love from him down south. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jul 29 23:06:14 1997 Message-ID: <33DE674B.2FD4@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:57:31 +0100 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: I did it, I did it, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! References: <970729145755_-1709784434@emout02.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1340 Lines: 41 BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: > > I got into nevelley@ndirect and I snuggled, and I found no less than 190 > messages that it told me I had not had from Enterprise. Then it took my > posings and went zap-zap-zap instead of "give me half an owwer and I'll think > about it". > > Me very pleased. Wait till it starts to lose them. I think it must me PMS cos it seems to go sad every month. reading the "test" thread also shows how many it's not picked up recently. me : sad. > > Me even more please cos Jenpen came in today with her matternity dress on and > she looked supper and she was ever (ever) so pleased with it. Oh I'm a happy > boy. gif gif gif. that reminds me it's supper time. > > Give me a ring latter if you has time. but it is later. It's much much later in fact its bloody 22:55 > > Lots of love from him down south. hmmm kissy kissy. -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-SX) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley@ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr@ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 30 11:41:02 1997 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:42:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Paveley To: Sam Users Mailing List Subject: Reply to.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 218 Lines: 10 Hmm, Just noticed the reply to: field on this list has reverted to nvg.unit.no.... Could this be part of a cunning plan to change the lists address over the summer, so none of the students can find it :) ....@/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 30 13:41:03 1997 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 08:31:19 EDT From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FW: Reply to.... Message-Id: <19970730123140Z49406-14592+4204@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 687 Lines: 28 Date: 1997-07-30 12:58 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:42:12 -0400 (EDT) >From: Tim Paveley >To: Sam Users Mailing List >Subject: Reply to.... >Hmm, > Just noticed the reply to: field on this list has reverted to >nvg.unit.no.... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.unit.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no by eck, yer right it has. > Could this be part of a cunning plan to change the lists address >over the summer, so none of the students can find it :) only if we're verwy verwy qwiet. me. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jul 30 20:28:54 1997 Message-ID: <33E00163.169@clara.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:07:15 -0700 From: persona Organization: persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 12 Lines: 3 Subscribe From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 31 04:13:45 1997 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 01:34:46 GMT Message-ID: <159_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: FW: Reply to.... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 743 Lines: 36 OASIS_E-Mail: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" wrote:- >> Just noticed the reply to: field on this list has reverted to >>nvg.unit.no.... > >by eck, yer right it has. > >> Could this be part of a cunning plan to change the lists address >>over the summer, so none of the students can find it :) > >only if we're verwy verwy qwiet. Ah, but you have a student in your midst! Me! Bwah, hah, hah, haaaaahh! (I won't tell anyone.. ;) ) >me. > > __ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James@lhutz.demon.co.uk Looking for a meaningful or humourous quote here..? Forget it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 31 04:14:05 1997 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 01:36:50 GMT Message-ID: <160_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: (no subject) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 466 Lines: 17 In E-Mail <33E00163.169@clara.net> persona wrote:- >Subscribe Command succeded. You are now subscribed to 1000mb-of-spam-a-day@majordomo.crapola.com To unsubscribe from this list, you must fill out form 54b and send it to us, enclosing a cheque for 2,000 pounds. The unsubscribe process will take approx. 2-4 years. If you ever need to contact the owner of this list, then we are sorry, but he's very busy and doesn't care anyway. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jul 31 10:16:25 1997 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:22:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Paveley To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: FW: Reply to.... In-Reply-To: <159_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1477 Lines: 34 On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, James R Curry wrote: James>>> Could this be part of a cunning plan to change the lists address James>>>over the summer, so none of the students can find it :) James>>only if we're verwy verwy qwiet. James>Ah, but you have a student in your midst! Me! James> James>Bwah, hah, hah, haaaaahh! James> James>(I won't tell anyone.. ;) ) Ah well, if you want to be picky, so am I, I'm just practising at being a grumpy tax payer for in a few months time.... Spent a few hours lovingly cleaning my Sam's case last weekend. Part of the process involved remocing all the keys from the key board, so I could give them a good wash, and clean out under them easily. God it was messy under there, at least the splashes of choclate sauce (from about 2 years ago) hadn't gone mouldy! I dread to think how much crap has got through the grill at the back over the last few years (last opened it about 4 years ago to tweak the colour). Hmm, I wonder if there is a market in giving Sam's a makeover, someone set up a kennel for tamagotchis, I could give him (or her) a good clean, perhaps apply some nail varnish to the legs, and post it back with a ribbon tied around it... Hmm, Anyone want to take me up on that? 50quid +p&p sounds a good price. Oh god, I'm waffling. Anyone used SamVision at all? I keep meaning to have another look, but got depressed when I found some source dated July 1995 that I thought would take me a day or two to finish...... ....@/